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Seicento My 2.0 16v Seicento Project

Introduction

As most of you already know i was thinking of creating a 2.0 16v fiat seicento......looking at the conversion, its already causing a few issues and wont be straight forward... but im still giving it a go!!

I need to work out how to get the hub / drive shaft combo sorted.... brake callipers + lines need to be worked out, and then the most important, keeping the rear end on the floor when braking!! as i didnt realise how light these cars are with nothing in the rear...

Ive got a T reg seicento sporting with 12months MOT and 6 Months tax, so this is a good base to get started on.

So far the car has been gutted, and im in the process of cutting out the wiring i wont be needing.

Im off on a 300 mile round trip tomorrow to pick the engine up, and then the battle of fitting it in will begin!
Hinckley island industrial estate? Looks like it with the tesco's on that main road.

There's a great loom manufacturer on that estate, sell all kind of wiring and connectors from busses to boats :D

got a name for the loom maker mate? im gonna redo my MS loom with watertight connectors on my banana sei,

also blueprint chips are good, my mate had a mk4 astra with a c20let engine in running about 350bhp it went like **** of a shovel he got his remap chips from blueprint
 
got a name for the loom maker mate? im gonna redo my MS loom with watertight connectors on my banana sei,

also blueprint chips are good, my mate had a mk4 astra with a c20let engine in running about 350bhp it went like **** of a shovel he got his remap chips from blueprint

This is then:

http://www.thegreatbritishwiringharnesscompany.co.uk/

Best to pop in, and have a chat with one of the two owners and explain what you want :)
 
if your using a vauxhall engine i know a guy just up the road from you who runs blueprint performance (has had cars in total vauxhall) who will tune it to the c*nting hills mate.


this is andy's(the brother of kirk who owns Blueprint) mk2 astra its been a labour of love and all the work on it has been done between them. i can grab you his number if your interested bud.

Could be tempting, im using the early FP motrinic 2.5 ecu which has the swapable chip facility (no soldering) so it could be a pretty easy job for them...

Any ideas on prices?
 
The fans will PUSH the air down through the rads out the hole in the floor. Its possible as its been done before millions of times... Using 306 air con push type fans.

Mind you, isn't the underfloor a relatively high pressure area even on non-ground effect cars? One solution that was used on several MR2s and even -- I think -- the biturbo Sei, was to stick a bloody great hole in the boot floor (vent it if you will) and vent the hot air from the rad/intercooler out to a low pressure area (the back of the hatch, a chopped out section of the rear bumper or, on the MR2, the engine lid). You could then get away with a temperature controlled fan switch, just as in a "normal" car.

Always better to let physics/aero do the work, rather than electricity..........
 
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Mind you, isn't the underfloor a relatively high pressure area even on non-ground effect cars? One solution that was used on several MR2s and even -- I think -- the biturbo Sei, was to stick a bloody great hole in the boot floor (vent it if you will) and vent the hot air from the rad/intercooler out to a low pressure area (the back of the hatch, a chopped out section of the rear bumper or, on the MR2, the engine lid). You could then get away with a temperature controlled fan switch, just as in a "normal" car.

Always better to let physics/aero do the work, rather than electricity..........

Ah this makes sence... may have to re look into the rear rad idea... i dont want vented windows etc, so might have a play with whats in the rear of the car to see what can be done...
 
If you use after market callipers you may be able to get 273mm discs inside a 14" wheel or 300mm under 15", you'll almost certainly have more power for the same disc diameter along with better pad control using after market 4 or 6 pot callipers. The question then becomes do you want to spend £200 to £350 on a pair of new brake callipers or not

And yes 16" wheels on a 'cento does look a little odd, but my Sei' isn't about looks so I don't care :)
 
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The thing isn't going to weigh that much more than a standard Sei, so Punto GT calipers and disks should be adequate. You can always upgrade the pads and disks if need be.

Control is probably more important than sheer efficiency: Punto GT brakes (get the late type, identified by the external spring) give a lot of modulation (control) with the stock master cylinder, and Aaron always claimed he could lock the fronts at 70 if need be (never tried it or felt the need).
 
160bhp seemed to be enough to overwhelm a PGT setup on the track over about 15 min then the brakes needed to cool off, not only that but the discs & pads were on their last legs after 1 track day. Okay it may be that RD 6 groove discs & fast road pads aren't the best solution but the RD pads aren't that far behind Ferodo & Mintex so the next real step up in performance is competition pads.

The cheap solution I'd go for in a project now would be Wilwood Midilites with dust seals gripping 266 or 273mm discs, what ever fits under a 14" rim. Sure that'll cost about £500 but I'd like to see you warp/crack a Wilwood ULHP 30 or SRP disc if you've bedded them in properly.
 
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