look, you’ve chosen to reply to me 3x (the first was my question to someone else) and in none of your posts have you addressed the questions I raised.
With respect, you started this pointless journey with “splitting hairs l so I suggest you desist
Technical Speak from clutch pedal
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Technical Speak from clutch pedal
With respect, you started this pointless journey with “splitting hairs l so I suggest you desist
Gentlemen (he presumes)… park the nit-picking and focus on the question and the suggested answers. No one’s perfect, we don’t all ‘read’ things the same way, and all of us miss info from posts (JayAre - you didn’t tell us which engine you gave, for example, until later in the thread, but criticise the reply which related to the OP’s 1.2).
Next step (if needed): report to moderator. Keep the Forum friendly please. Thank you.
this is me - I lift the bonnet for washer fluid top up, and check oil level and, basically, that’s the extent of my car knowledge.
I can read instructions, just as I can cook a meal from a written recipe/instruction.
That’s the the point. I need to know where something is in order to see it x otherwise it’s just a mass of stuff.
Plus the fact that the Panda engine compartment is crammed with stuff - it needs nothing to me without the “recipe” book
In which case, don’t shoot the messengers here who, on reading your posts, might take it that you have a high level of mechanical nous (enough to question our advice). If you haven’t got that knowledge then please respect those that do have, and allow us to help the OP and others by taking our freely-given experience gained over 40 years of car maintenance with gratitude.
Last from me on this one.
That’s the frustration, though - if I ask where something is and no-one knows then it’s not helpful for people who don’t know the answer to post replies that don’t answer the question
Clearly not me then, as I answered both the OP and you with specifics.
you didn’t know the answer yet you posted…
Read post #18 - TA 4x4 has external slave cylinder… (https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/speak-from-clutch-pedal.512088/post-4775692)
Good night, and sleep tight.
Very last from me here.
probably for the best
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crispycrystal
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I’m sorry that my question has inadvertently caused an argument, not what I intended!
@Herts Hillhopper the rod I was referring to was the one connected to the pedal that goes into the rubber showing the picture. Definitely a rod not a hydraulic pipe. Is the rubber actually the end of the master cylinder to you think?
I’ve tried the lubricant on the moving part at the end of this rod and where it goes into the rubber, also the pivot point on the left, though that looks pretty well greased anyway. Please note that this photo was taken with the front camera in my iPhone so it’s a mirror image - the only way I could get a picture
Despite the argument, I’m very grateful for all comments and suggestions, especially those that have knowledge and experience
@Herts Hillhopper the rod I was referring to was the one connected to the pedal that goes into the rubber showing the picture. Definitely a rod not a hydraulic pipe. Is the rubber actually the end of the master cylinder to you think?
I’ve tried the lubricant on the moving part at the end of this rod and where it goes into the rubber, also the pivot point on the left, though that looks pretty well greased anyway. Please note that this photo was taken with the front camera in my iPhone so it’s a mirror image - the only way I could get a picture
Despite the argument, I’m very grateful for all comments and suggestions, especially those that have knowledge and experience
I recently had to find and stop a squeak on one of my daughters cars a VW Tiguan and was able to use spray grease on the pedal bush area. First I used the WD40 to locate the problem and then as it quickly wears off I used the spray grease in the correct area.
It seems like many vehicles use plastic in the construction of the pedals and bushes which when the original factory grease used in assembly wears off, t annoying sounds develop.
I have seen plastics shedding fine dust as they wear away due to the lack of correct lubricants. Many nylon and plastic items are self lubricating up to a point, but things like pedals take quite a lot of firm pressure regularly hence the problem develops.
Ah - other end of the system! (I read it as the rod at the gearbox end, sorry ) Yes, that’s the ‘business end’ of the master cylinder, the other bit is partly under the bonnet on the back left as you look at it from the front of the car.
Beware of the choice of lubricant as that rod passes through a rubber seal so avoid anything that might perish that. But the other side of the seal should be lubricated by the fluid anyway (which is actually brake fluid, fed from a pipe connected from the main brake fluid reservoir running across to the clutch master cylinder.)
There are two pivots that can squeak - the first where that rod is connected to the pedal, and the second being the pivot for the pedal itself (which is a little further up and will suffer greater stress). Additionally, the coiled spring that helps return the pedal to the up position can also squeak as the coils rub against each other .
I’ve tried to point these out on your photo as I’m away at the mo but not in the Panda, so can’t take my own
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crispycrystal
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Thank for that. I sprayed the whole area with brake and clutch cleaner and the squeak stopped altogether ( hoorah) then came back about 5 min later (boo) when the solvent had evaporated, so it’s definitely in this area. I’m going to try Vaseline on that spring near your arrow on the right hand side of the picture. I’ve already tried it on the pivot there your left arrow is and on the rod itself
Just be aware that Vaseline will rot rubber. Silicone grease might be a better option, or (apparently) there’s something called Red Rubber Grease (never used that as I use silicone grease)
crispycrystal
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Thanks. I’ll get some
lunchbeers
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Another vote for red rubber grease here, I have used this on my last Panda and previous Alfas, when they suffered this, WD-40, Silicone spray and Lithium grease all worked temporarily, but soon the squeak came back, red rubber grease sorted it for far longer.
Euro Car Parts sell it by the tub and it can be used for most rubber-based aplications.
I was under the impression silicone hydrates and causes rubber to swell, which might make your issues worse.
Euro Car Parts sell it by the tub and it can be used for most rubber-based aplications.
I was under the impression silicone hydrates and causes rubber to swell, which might make your issues worse.
crispycrystal
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Thanks, I have ordered some for delivery tomorrow. Today I’ll wipe off the Vaseline then clean it with brake and clutch cleaner spray
The main advantage of a spray would be that when parts are in situ it is easier to apply the product, what ever is used.
I used a lithium spray which worked , but I see that isn't recommended either long term.
I used a lithium spray which worked , but I see that isn't recommended either long term.
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I had the "pedal squeek" happening when letting the pedal up. I was convinced it was the pedal squeeking but after trying oil on the pedal mechanism it just kept re-occuring. Then on lifting the bonnet and listening with the door open it was loud from the engine compartment. Definately the clutch slave cylinder. I recorded it .
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