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With a difference..

Looking to buy a Bravo mainly for the girlfriend to use daily, though I will have the odd occasional use of it when required.
Here's the differing part - she does a total round commute of 4 miles a day. I know this is not good for any car/engine but which would be able to handle this the best?

It would get the cobwebs blown out most weekends on a longer run as she goes to visit her folks or I use it for whatever reason.

I have to drive (suffer) a diseasel every day (shoot me - a 330cd, easy to drive and a nice wafter) but have a petrol car for fun at the weekends (145 with a Coupe 16vt). She isn't massively fussed whether it is petrol or diesel but she does slightly prefer the drive petrol, mileage doesn't justify the extra cost of diesel. It will be a sport model, it won't get driven hard, so really which would be best for the short commuter driver in terms of longevity bearing in mind the engine will hardly even warm up?

I would imagine the diesel is the harder wearing engine but takes longer to warm up over the petrol?

Any thoughts appreciated.
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Considering conditions you have described you should go for Bravo's petrol engine. Anyway reconsider the base engine 1,4 Fire (90 Hps), yeah it's not as powerful as T-jets are but you will benefit from better consumption, especially driving town. But if consumption doesn't bother you, take T-jet 120. It is the best gold choice.
 
I'd love a 4 mile commute :eek: though she is a nurse and regularly works shifts starting or ending at night so quite understandably she doesn't fancy walking across town and down alley ways on her own at x o'clock. To be fair some days she does walk if the weather is good and if I can pick her up at night, etc.
 
alfa145 said:
I'd love a 4 mile commute :eek: though she is a nurse and regularly works shifts starting or ending at night so quite understandably she doesn't fancy walking across town and down alley ways on her own at x o'clock. To be fair some days she does walk if the weather is good and if I can pick her up at night, etc.
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Fair enough, the Jimmy Choo's wouldn't go with the nurses uniform!
 
Petrol initially is cheaper given the distances involved, but you might go through exhausts and cats since the engine won't be clearing out the acidic water vapour in the exhaust system.

Diesel costs more to buy but will sell for more when the time comes. Short journeys won't be a problem for components as long as the car gets a good run every week or so to clean out the DPF.

So you want the sport for looks/handling/equipment? If you don't need the performance perhaps look at the 1.4 120 tub or the 1.6 115 multijet.
 
Want the sport for the looks, the extra bit of wellie and the trim level. As it's her car she won't be into uprating the suspension etc so Sport seemed like a good compromise.

Her current Bravo 1.8 HLX has gone the last 5 years of the short journeys, with nothing abnormal failing, though now approaching the age of 8 years things are starting to niggle which could be associated with the journey type like sticking calipers etc, but nothing I can't sort. The cat lasted fine on that car, and the exhaust only went last year. Anything mechanical and I can sort it out of the warranty period anyway.
 
Her old Bravo has done well, it was the original exhaust that went as well - it stood up well to good old English 'sunshine' for 7 years. Original battery only went late last year as well. It's now got a sticking starter motor as well, so saving that for a weekend when it's not raining.

Where can I find what is included with each trim level?
 
Honestly, you have enough cars already for weekend fun and long trips: your girlfriend needs a Panda with the smallest 1.1 petrol engine. This has the best chance of warming up in time not to wreck the exhaust.

A Diesel would be completely wrong for this application. It'd be gummed up in weeks.
 
Ulpian said:
Honestly, you have enough cars already for weekend fun and long trips: your girlfriend needs a Panda with the smallest 1.1 petrol engine. This has the best chance of warming up in time not to wreck the exhaust.

A Diesel would be completely wrong for this application. It'd be gummed up in weeks.
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Agree!!! get her a panda or 500.
 
I have to agree....if it were me i would get the 500 with the 60-something HP engine...it's perfect for these journeys and the consumption will be excellent aswell.

I wouldn't recommend Diesel for such short journeys, this is where those small "city" engines shine :)

EDIT: Just checked, and the 1.2 POP(69bhp i think) it's 10,325 pounds list price with the ACC & ESP - this would be my choice!
 
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Hellcat said:
A panda or 500 perhaps is a good idea.

However since this is the Bravo section I'll fight it's corner and say since a 500 is 10 grand... 12,950 gets you a 1.4 Bravo Active with air con. £13,300 gets you the ESP.
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but in couple years time, the 500 will worth 7.5k and the bravo will worth 6k... sad but truth.
 
Hellcat said:
However since this is the Bravo section I'll fight it's corner and say since a 500 is 10 grand... 12,950 gets you a 1.4 Bravo Active with air con. £13,300 gets you the ESP.
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But it's just overkill. Unless you're rich enough to be happy to take a massive hit, wait a few months and pick up a second hand 500 or get a 2 year old Panda now.
 
Thanks for the input chaps but..
It will be her car so she has to be happy in it - I see no point spending that much money on something she is not content with for the sake of a small difference, plus it saves me an ear ache. I did try and point her towards a 500 initially, she even drove it and liked the drive but found it too small. It feels smaller inside than her current Bravo. She wasn't too keen on the looks of the Panda.
Consumption is really not an issue and she would prefer something with a slightly larger engine for when she does do her longer drives back to her folks/sister's place, often well loaded with stuff, and to be honest I can't stand anything slower than her current 115 HLX Bravo for when I have to drive it either. She prefers the Bravo out of the current Fiat range and we would be looking for a low mileage/~6 months old example. One loading criteria I forgot to mention it has to fit a mountain bike in the boot, which I'm sure the Bravo shouldn't have an issue with?
 
Mountain bike in the boot? Seats up/down? Parcel shelf....? one or both wheels off? Mines a bit special as the bars are rather wide, and they can only turn about45 degrees either way.

Don't think I've tried but the boot space is practically the same as the original Bravo.

To compare with the 115HLX, I'd say you'll want the 150Tjet. The 120Tjet is hauling a lot more weight than the HLX.
 
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