I would guess that there may have been a period where cars got the new rear end but not S&S by the look of things 
Yours does have the new rear end btw
Yours does have the new rear end btw
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I would guess that there may have been a period where cars got the new rear end but not S&S by the look of things
FIAT were a bit quick off the mark in announcing that S&S would be standard and didn't properly account for the demand, so back in January they announced that non-S&S engines would again be available 'for a limited time', hence some non-S&S engine cars built after 01/12/2009 have the Anti-Roll Bar.
Not sure how long the limited time is, but it is still available now...
Silly Fiat. I did wonder whether it was something like that, either running out of the "old" suspension components or not having enough S&S components.
They'll never run out of the new Suspension components, they just steal them from Ford
That's what I meant thoughThey'll never run out of the new Suspension components, they just steal them from Ford
If they ran out of the old bits catherinej
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Our new 2010 500 has recently arrived at Avonmouth and it doesn't have start stop so I guess we are still within the limited time frame.
just picked my 500 up today and she has the ss sytem and the new anti roll bar ordered in jan and delivery today much improved ride compaired to my last 500
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Have you got smaller wheels on the new one, if so that could be the reason for the improvement?
I tried a new 500 with anti-roll bar it wasn't a much better ride than the one I've got
and not as good a ride as the Ford Ka. Have been told since that I should try a new 500 with A/R bar and smaller 14 or 15 inch wheels to feel the improvement.
(I won't buy a Ford Ka because although it rides much better but doesn't look as good. How shallow is that.
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When we had a test drive, we took out a 2010 1.2 POP, the ride on the car was very good. We also drove a Ka Zetec and didn't really notice much of a difference.
Looks like our Lounge will be ready on Friday to collect.
Looks like our Lounge will be ready on Friday to collect.
The new suspension is definitely an improvement. I suspect your cars suspension has loosened up a bit and the one that you tried was probably a bit new. My 500 is a lot nicer on its 16" wheels after a winter of hitting potholes and bumps and so on.Have you got smaller wheels on the new one, if so that could be the reason for the improvement?
I tried a new 500 with anti-roll bar it wasn't a much better ride than the one I've got
Have been told since that I should try a new 500 with A/R bar and smaller 14 or 15 inch wheels to feel the improvement.
(I won't buy a Ford Ka because although it rides much better but doesn't look as good. How shallow is that.
no mine is on 16s
my last 500 was a lounge was very bouncy but my new sport is firm which i like
my last 500 was a lounge was very bouncy but my new sport is firm which i like
My mum has just bought a near-as-dammit new 1.2 Sport, so of course it will have the latest suspension. My sister got a new 1.2 Lounge on scrappage early last year, so I'll have to crawl underneath and check what suspension hers came with.
My question is... seeing that the original 1.4s always had an ARB rear end, did that setup change at all with the revisions? Just springs and dampers?
Are all rear suspension setups the same now (apart from Abarths etc.) ?
My question is... seeing that the original 1.4s always had an ARB rear end, did that setup change at all with the revisions? Just springs and dampers?
Are all rear suspension setups the same now (apart from Abarths etc.) ?
The original 1.4's DID NOT have the different rear end. The only 500 models which had the revised rear end from the start of production were the c and the Abarth.
Also, convertibles differ in terms of suspension to the hatchbacks and there are differences between the 1.2, 1.4, dismal and the twinair. No two are the completely the same as far as I'm aware.
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My understanding was that the original 1.4s had a rear ARB always, but I guess the "new" rear end is a complete transplant from the Ka.
Presumably all the old comments about bouncy rear ends etc. will be partially down to the fact that most 500s will be driven around by one person (female probably), and if there were one or two passengers in the back you would need extra springing and the ride might have settled down more quickly from new.
Not saying that the mods didn't need doing.....
Presumably all the old comments about bouncy rear ends etc. will be partially down to the fact that most 500s will be driven around by one person (female probably), and if there were one or two passengers in the back you would need extra springing and the ride might have settled down more quickly from new.
Not saying that the mods didn't need doing.....
No. As I said, the only models which had the revised rear beam were the c and the Abarth as well as the Twinair if we're going to count that. Everything else started with the same crappy beam which came out of the Panda.
The bounciness is nothing to do with only having one person in the car. It's down to the spring and damping rates being completely **** and there not being enough damping to properly control the springs.
Yes, but what I meant was as I now understand it, the old 1.4s had the crappy rear end but WITH an added ARB...
Now everything has a different rear end and they all get an ARB. With small variations in springs and dampers....
Correct?
Now everything has a different rear end and they all get an ARB. With small variations in springs and dampers....
Correct?
No! The 1.4 had EXACTLY the same rear beam as all the other 500's and the Panda. Exactly the same other than the dampers and springs.
Fair enough, you seem convinced... From reading stuff elsewhere I understood it differently.
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You have either missunderstood or your other source is unreliable. No F500 had a rear arb originally.
