General Fiat Stilo Abarth 2.4L 20v Turbo!

[Dax]

Re: Fiat Stilo Abarth 2.4L 20V Turbo Conversion

Fit it where the Fiat coupe 20VT has it - Offside front - you can probably use all the pipes as far as I can tell. Use a 20VT sump as it has the feeds built into it.

I already have all that, I just want a photo of where it's located on the Stilo 150hp 16v model as I want to try and use this bracketry for the coupe oil cooler, thanks anyway.

 

[Dax]

Just been told by JP4mance Tuning Parts,

The Walbro 255 lph Fuel Pump kit for Fiat coupe 20v turbo itself will work fine inside the petrol tank. The fitting kit isn't specific to the Fiat it's universal or generic and works with the pump. It may need some small modifications for fitment such as an extra cable tie or jubilee clip but it will function as intended. .

So question answered, this is what I will get

Just an update, this pump will not fit the Stilo pump housing as the feed end is totally different, so sold it on eBay, and surprisingly, got my money back!

New wheels arrived today, the new 'Fiat' logo badges not only fit, they look good with the colour of the wheel. Having all tyres swapped over on Monday and will take a picture of the car with the on. The only problem I can see with these wheels is it's going to very easy to curb them as the middle section sticks out about 18mm than the rim! At least I can get shot of the wheel spacers though.

Nitrac ventilated rear discs turned up today as well. Having to send the rear stub axle, disc and wilwood brake caliper of to a company to have an adaptor made up so I can fit these handbrake calipers.

 

[Dax]

Pistons have finally arrived, only have to wait for the connecting rods now!

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[Dax]

Just been told by JP4mance Tuning Parts,

The Walbro 255 lph Fuel Pump kit for Fiat coupe 20v turbo itself will work fine inside the petrol tank. The fitting kit isn't specific to the Fiat it's universal or generic and works with the pump. It may need some small modifications for fitment such as an extra cable tie or jubilee clip but it will function as intended. .

So question answered, this is what I will get

I have finally sorted out the fuel pump, the Walbro one for the Coupe, which is what I was going to use, does not fit and after talking to Bosch and others came to a dead end, so wasted a lot of time. That was until I decided to go to Sanspeed, in Bexleyheath Kent, within two days that have sorted me out with a Walbro GSS342 (ITP116) in-tank pump that will meet more than my needs and it fits with very minor alterations to the housing. All I need to do now, is sort out the fuel return! Still need to find out if the Stilo Diesel in-tank unit has a fuel return, I've seen a picture, but not sure if its just a generic picture.

Still awaiting con rods from Torque Italia, been told they will be with me soon.

 

[20vturbo]

alright mate,im not a big poster,but can't understand the negative comments you have been getting,its your money and your car,go for it! i have been thinking of turboing my sedici for a while now but not sure as i have done 27 miles in it this year and 1 k miles in my 20vt coop, so good luck and go for it!

 

[Dax]

If you do it dude im right behind you with mine

Not waiting to do much more, just waiting for the con rods to come, then the engine can go back together. Make a temporary exhaust pipe between the two cats, fit and wire-in the boost controller and i can then try and start it up. If all goes well, I will hopefully be taking it to have a remap and a piggy back ecu fitted for the turbo side? Have a new exhaust pipe manufacture for the temporary one. Oh, have got to fit a 6" pull fan to the inter-cooler which comes on when the temperature rises to high in the plenum chamber.

As soon as it complete, I will post a comprehensive list of parts and part numbers of what is required to complete this conversion. The thing is because its a first, I think, its costs a lot of money trying out different assemblies and parts and finding out what will fit from other vehicles. It will be a lot cheaper when another one is done as most of the parts required are available secondhand and all the trial and error has been taken away.

 

[T.E.D. Jordan]

Nice project, really good read - did you ever find a set of poly bushes? if you get a set of standard bushes to me i might be able to make you a set?

Jordan

 

[Dax]

Nice project, really good read - did you ever find a set of poly bushes? if you get a set of standard bushes to me i might be able to make you a set?

Jordan

Thanks for the offer, might take you up on that when I finally get the car running again, Cheers mate

 

[Dax]

I have finally sorted out the fuel pump, the Walbro one for the Coupe, which is what I was going to use, does not fit and after talking to Bosch and others came to a dead end, so wasted a lot of time. That was until I decided to go to Sanspeed, in Bexleyheath Kent, within two days that have sorted me out with a Walbro GSS342 (ITP116) in-tank pump that will meet more than my needs and it fits with very minor alterations to the housing. All I need to do now, is sort out the fuel return! Still need to find out if the Stilo Diesel in-tank unit has a fuel return, I've seen a picture, but not sure if its just a generic picture.

Still awaiting con rods from Torque Italia, been told they will be with me soon.

Had to buy a new in-tank fuel unit as I had no reply for help in the technical Stilo section. The JTD does have a fuel return which now solves the fuel return problem. However, I only want the top half of the unit, but Ive noticed that the connecting rods which separate the top from the bottom are in different positions!!

I'm now starting to get fed-up and loosing the will to live with this problem I thought, what I thought was small thing to sort out, could be so complicated!!

Is it me complicating this, is there an easier way??

I will have to take the pump out of the diesel unit and see if the is an uprated one for that!! The diesel in-tank pump does produce 155l/h which is ideal, but it's low pressure, 150kPa, whereas the petrol unit is 400kPa

Oh, still waiting for the con rods!!

 

[Dax]

Had to buy a new in-tank fuel unit as I had no reply for help in the technical Stilo section. The JTD does have a fuel return which now solves the fuel return problem. However, I only want the top half of the unit, but Ive noticed that the connecting rods which separate the top from the bottom are in different positions!!

I'm now starting to get fed-up and loosing the will to live with this problem I thought, what I thought was small thing to sort out, could be so complicated!!

Is it me complicating this, is there an easier way??

I will have to take the pump out of the diesel unit and see if the is an uprated one for that!! The diesel in-tank pump does produce 155l/h which is ideal, but it's low pressure, 150kPa, whereas the petrol unit is 400kPa

Oh, still waiting for the con rods!!

Finally, finally sorted this fuel pump problem out, you use a diesel in-tank fuel composite unit for the fuel return connections, take the pump out and put a Subaru Walbro uprated in-tank pump in it. All I had to do is use the foam collars supplied with the pump and a bit of rubber, that can be used with petrol, to make another collar and its a snug fit. Just need to run the fuel return pipe to complete.

Oh, con rods are on there way, whoopee!!

 

[bulldog5046]

starting to come together then! i really look forward to seeing it

 

[Dax]

They finally arrived today, the con-rods, they are made by Cunningham Rods, California. Just have to put the engine back together now!

OEM rod and piston weight - 1152g
Uprated rod and piston weight - 1037g

 

[Dax]

New Rods And Pistons Installed that lower the compression ratio to 8.5:1. Just the long haul in putting the engine back together, a least I have now a warm garage to finish the project.

Still need to fathom out where the oil radiator is located and how it is fitted to a 150hp 1.9-litre 16V common-rail JTD Stilo, pictures would be welcome!

 

[ChrisUK]

Good luck finding the 150 mjet Stilo Sporting its as rare as hens teeth lol. Been following this for a while just haven't posted . Odd Pot power FTW :slayer:.

One idea would to go look on auto trader for any for sale near you and go have a look in the engine bay .

Edit: Dont know how close this is to your but how about this:-

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-u...ARS&make=&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=

 

[stilosporting]

would eper help you find out where it is situated?

 

[johns]

Good luck with the engine. What ECU are you going to use ? I presume you're not trying to channel it through a std clutch and selespeed box?

 

[Dax]

Good luck with the engine. What ECU are you going to use ? I presume you're not trying to channel it through a std clutch and selespeed box?

I have no idea at present what 'piggy-back' ECU I will be using as yet; Yes I am using the standard clutch, but would be open to reasons why a standard clutch would not be OK? and not just for the reason the engine will produce more power!
Yes, I will be using the standard gearbox with the selespeed selection. The gearbox inner components and differential are those that are fitted to the Lancia Kappa 2.4JTD, so I don't see any problems there with the amount or torque that engine produces? With regards to the 'Selespeed', all this is an electronic shift mechanism that bolts to a standard gearbox, so I can't see what, if any, problems will be there either?

 

[alexGS]

This is looking super-exciting Dax! Keep at it!
The sight of the pistons when they arrived made my heart melt.

Do you have a new job yet?

I wonder if the ECU input for airflow can be 'intercepted' (an interceptor takes in one level and puts out another; you turn the level up or down at numerous setpoints) so that correction can be mapped-in for having bigger injectors fitted. Then perhaps there could be a correction mapped in according to boost level as well. I wonder what the standard ECU does when it sees a 'boost' situation. Hopefully it ignores it!

-Alex

 

[Dax]

This is looking super-exciting Dax! Keep at it!
The sight of the pistons when they arrived made my heart melt.

Do you have a new job yet?

I wonder if the ECU input for airflow can be 'intercepted' (an interceptor takes in one level and puts out another; you turn the level up or down at numerous setpoints) so that correction can be mapped-in for having bigger injectors fitted. Then perhaps there could be a correction mapped in according to boost level as well. I wonder what the standard ECU does when it sees a 'boost' situation. Hopefully it ignores it!

-Alex

No job yet, waiting for the appeal hearing on the 20th of this month, which will determine what the future hold s for me!

You totally lost me on the ECU matter, I'm an old git that does not understand all this electronic stuff in new cars now, my experience was with carburetter engines and distributor's with points in them!!

I assume I will have to have a 'piggy-back' ECU fitted for the turbo side of things, as I've been informed it would be too complicated and costly to remap the existing ECU. I will have to take it to whoever to have this done?

 

[D4nny8oy]

Dax- RE: Your oil cooler.

I looked on there and couldnt see it

Really?... I found it... :nerner:

http://eper.fiatforum.com/eper/navi...INT_MODE=0&EPER_CAT=SP&WINDOW_ID=1&GUI_LANG=3

Granted it only shows it floating in mid-air (but that's the joys of ePer for you ). Here's a pic from the online manual too- though again it's quite vague-



So it seems to mount behind the front o/s corner of the bumper on a pair of brackets, with two short hoses between it and the engine...