General Fiat Stilo Abarth 2.4L 20v Turbo!
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General Fiat Stilo Abarth 2.4L 20v Turbo!
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Dax- RE: Your oil cooler.
Really?... I found it... :nerner:
http://eper.fiatforum.com/eper/navi...INT_MODE=0&EPER_CAT=SP&WINDOW_ID=1&GUI_LANG=3
Granted it only shows it floating in mid-air (but that's the joys of ePer for you). Here's a pic from the online manual too- though again it's quite vague-
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So it seems to mount behind the front o/s corner of the bumper on a pair of brackets, with two short hoses between it and the engine...
I've seen the eper picture, but its a generic picture as the top bracket shown is identical to the coupe one. However, I've bought these brackets for the stilo and they look nothing like the pictures on eper. The repair manual picture is a bit more interesting as it seems to show the oil cooler with the outlets on the side rather than at the bottom? Went back out to the car with the bracket, but still can't find anywhere it will bolt too! Tried looking in different places on eper to see if there are any further bracketry, but can't find any, wont give up though!!
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I haven't really thought about what ECU to use as yet, just want to concentrate on all these, what seem to be, small problems out first and then finish putting the car back together.
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The thing to remember with ePer is- never trust the picture it shows!
Often the programmers will decide to cut corners and re-use other pictures to illustrate what the component is- hence why they're often seen floating in mid-air or hidden away in an obscure section. It's a serious pain when you're trying to order a part for a customer and you can't guarantee it will be what you see on the screen.
And I can see what you mean regards the oil cooler mounting. Sadly I can honestly say that I have never worked-on, let alone seen a Stilo JTD 16v so I can't tell from experience where it mounts. The pic from the manual suggests to me that it mounts in the space between the wheelarch liner and the front panel, seemingly where the washer bottle is situated?
Often the programmers will decide to cut corners and re-use other pictures to illustrate what the component is- hence why they're often seen floating in mid-air or hidden away in an obscure section. It's a serious pain when you're trying to order a part for a customer and you can't guarantee it will be what you see on the screen.
And I can see what you mean regards the oil cooler mounting. Sadly I can honestly say that I have never worked-on, let alone seen a Stilo JTD 16v so I can't tell from experience where it mounts. The pic from the manual suggests to me that it mounts in the space between the wheelarch liner and the front panel, seemingly where the washer bottle is situated?
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Dax- RE: Your oil cooler.
Really?... I found it... :nerner:
http://eper.fiatforum.com/eper/navi...INT_MODE=0&EPER_CAT=SP&WINDOW_ID=1&GUI_LANG=3
Granted it only shows it floating in mid-air (but that's the joys of ePer for you
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So it seems to mount behind the front o/s corner of the bumper on a pair of brackets, with two short hoses between it and the engine...
I won my employment appeal, so I got my job back. I bought the Stilo oil cooler and pipes, now I know I've got money coming in. Managed to fathom out how the brackets fit to the cooler and I know it is sited somewhere in the offside wheel arch, as the lower bumper grill is different in that it lets air through (I bought this as well). The only problem that I still have is I can't understand what this unit fits to? There are no obvious fixing points!!
These are a couple of pictures just in case anyone can fathom it out?
the offside (if that means passenger side) is where the intercooler is? or are you referring to the mjtd?
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Finally just sorted, (offside - drivers side), changed the pipes around on the cooler and it fitted! Although the holes were not there, which is why I found it so difficult to figure out. Luckily, I have been able to get hold of a patten front end, which holds the radiators and inter-cooler. This had the holes in, so I took templates and drilled them on my existing front end. My vehicle is an early version, before 2003, so they would not had manufactured this large part with the holes in. Only thing now is the oil cooler hits the washer bottle!! Checked on eper and there is a difference between the diesel (fitted with the oil cooler) and petrol, even with headlamp washers, so I will have to buy one of these.
Just a few pictures of the progress
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hi, i see the beauyifull proyect and performance.my name is imanol i from spain,and i have a similar proyect in my stilo abarth.sorry for my bad english.i blow off my engine 2.4l.i had my abarth engine with colombo&barinni cams,remap ecu,racing pipe ported head etc.i was to dyno 206hp,very nice result.but 3 month ago i blow off the engine,the oil pump bad.is crash the conect rod 4.and the crash tha block.well was buy a fiat coupe turbo.and now im pass the coupe turbo engine from stilo.but i ask????i know that the engine base is exacly..etc..but the electronic..the ecu??? how i do make???is easy? what ecu i can use??Finally just sorted, (offside - drivers side), changed the pipes around on the cooler and it fitted! Although the holes were not there, which is why I found it so difficult to figure out. Luckily, I have been able to get hold of a patten front end, which holds the radiators and inter-cooler. This had the holes in, so I took templates and drilled them on my existing front end. My vehicle is an early version, before 2003, so they would not had manufactured this large part with the holes in. Only thing now is the oil cooler hits the washer bottle!! Checked on eper and there is a difference between the diesel (fitted with the oil cooler) and petrol, even with headlamp washers, so I will have to buy one of these.
Just a few pictures of the progress
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looking good. are you going to use the stock induction? are you using a standard intercooler or going aftermarket? 2.4 looks interesting with a turbo connected to it!
Looking good Dax Be interesting to see what it can do when it's done. You've maybe touched on this before.... and someone else might know..... but would the Q2 diff fit the Abarth 'box Might make a useful addition
Be interesting to see what it can do when it's done. You've maybe touched on this before.... and someone else might know..... but would the Q2 diff fit the Abarth 'box Might make a useful addition
according to the alfaowners forum it will fit straight in. only £220 for the part too?!
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Looking good Dax
Would that be the one that's fitted to the Alfa 3.2 V6 147? I did look at the Quaife torque biasing differential, but they could not confirm the one they quoted to fit all Stilo's would fit the Selespeed Abarth version!! Plus if the Alfa did fit, it's half the price of the Quaife one.
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looking good. are you going to use the stock induction? are you using a standard intercooler or going aftermarket? 2.4 looks interesting with a turbo connected to it!
I want to keep it looking like a factory finish, so I'm trying to use the stock air box but with, say, a K&N replacement filter? The intercooler is the standard Stilo Diesel one, which is not that different in size to the Coupe Turbo one. I'm also fitting a small fan to the intercooler which will be connected via some aftermarket electronic, to the air flow meter temperature sensor, so that the fan will kick-in when the temperature of the incoming air is rising in temperature. Basically it will come on in traffic, slow speed and hot summer days in traffic jams!!
sounds interesting having a cooling fan on the intercooler.
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Followed this up on the Alfa Forum and found that the Stilo 2.4 petrol diff (95721110) is fitted as standard to the 147 with an option of having a Q2 diff (55208952) with 933 meaning "front auto-locking differential"
Prod. Code Fur. descr. Comp. M. Qty N. C. C. Recondit.
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1 GEARS AND CASE
95721110 COMPL 01
55208952 COMPL 933 01
So spoke to my friendly Fiat dealership for a price and they come back with £221.36 inc. VAT, which is about a 1/3 of the price of the Quaife Automatic Torque Biasing Helical LSD differential.
I thought whilst I have most of the front-end off, I might as well change the differential now, it will be much easier! So I bought one
thats great news. you might be the first to fit it too. so it made no difference with yours being selespeed?
annoyingly they only engine that isnt compatible is the alfa 1.9jtd 8v M15 and the fiat 1.9jtd 8v M50 (mine ) the 8v mjtd and 16v mjtd share the same diff so can have it fitted.
annoyingly they only engine that isnt compatible is the alfa 1.9jtd 8v M15 and the fiat 1.9jtd 8v M50 (mine
) the 8v mjtd and 16v mjtd share the same diff so can have it fitted.
That's what I see as being a 'spy' but presumably the dealers would have mentioned that - wouldn't they?
I'd love the diff myself but in the same boat, not compatible with the earlier Stilo JTDs
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thats great news. you might be the first to fit it too. so it made no difference with yours being selespeed?
annoyingly they only engine that isnt compatible is the alfa 1.9jtd 8v M15 and the fiat 1.9jtd 8v M50 (mine
If you look at eper, the Stilo Selespeed diff is the same as the Alfa 147 Diesel standard diff, so if the Q2 diff is an option and fits the 147 diesel, then it must fit the 2.4 Stilo.
I cut and pasted from eper for item number one in my last post, which is the diff and it shows both part numbers for the same item with the bearings and everything else being the same for both diffs, so they must be interchangeable.
I had a look at the back of the gearbox and it looks a bit of a pig to change? However it does looks like you could replace it without taking the whole gearbox out according to eLearn?
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Re: Fiat Stilo Abarth 2.4L 20v Turbo Conversion!
Is there anyone out there that I could post these pipes too to have altered? I need 18mm cut off and then brazed back to the fixing plates in the same orientation as before they were altered. There is enough straight pipe to do this although is doesn't look like it on one of the pipes!
Is there anyone out there that I could post these pipes too to have altered? I need 18mm cut off and then brazed back to the fixing plates in the same orientation as before they were altered. There is enough straight pipe to do this although is doesn't look like it on one of the pipes!
