Technical Tires for Fiat Panda Antarctica 2014 4x4

[liamjp]

Hey guys,

Recently had my car in the garage. They had 175/65R15 tyres on. I have a full set of 175/65R14 tyres that my aunty (previous owner) had bought. These are winter tyres. They said these tyres do not fit the 15 inch rim. I think the R14 were the stock size or maybe I’m getting confused?

Is there no chance these 175/65R14 tyres will fit the car?

Also, the rear brakes will not stop squeaking. Previously the garage said the lip on the brakes was causing it and they grinded it down. They now saying the rear brake discs inner surfaces have corroded. How hard would these be to change myself?

Any advice welcome

Cheers

Liam

 

[Greasytrucker]

Hey guys,

Recently had my car in the garage. They had 175/65R15 tyres on. I have a full set of 175/65R14 tyres that my aunty (previous owner) had bought. These are winter tyres. They said these tyres do not fit the 15 inch rim. I think the R14 were the stock size or maybe I’m getting confused?

Is there no chance these 175/65R14 tyres will fit the car?

Also, the rear brakes will not stop squeaking. Previously the garage said the lip on the brakes was causing it and they grinded it down. They now saying the rear brake discs inner surfaces have corroded. How hard would these be to change myself?

Any advice welcome

Cheers

Liam

If the car currently has 15 inch wheels on then unfortunately the tyres definitely won’t fit. As for the rear brakes, i’m sure if you use the very helpful search function on here there’ll be a guide somewhere

 

[Herts Hillhopper]

Hey guys,

Recently had my car in the garage. They had 175/65R15 tyres on. I have a full set of 175/65R14 tyres that my aunty (previous owner) had bought. These are winter tyres. They said these tyres do not fit the 15 inch rim. I think the R14 were the stock size or maybe I’m getting confused?

Is there no chance these 175/65R14 tyres will fit the car?

Also, the rear brakes will not stop squeaking. Previously the garage said the lip on the brakes was causing it and they grinded it down. They now saying the rear brake discs inner surfaces have corroded. How hard would these be to change myself?

Any advice welcome

Cheers

Liam

The 'R14' bit means they tyres fit a 14" rim... you need 'R15' to fit your 15 inch wheels

(Randomly, the other number, the 175 bit is the width of the tread but measured in millimetres. The 65 part means the sidewall height is 65% of the tread width)

 

[Herts Hillhopper]

Hey guys,

Recently had my car in the garage. They had 175/65R15 tyres on. I have a full set of 175/65R14 tyres that my aunty (previous owner) had bought. These are winter tyres. They said these tyres do not fit the 15 inch rim. I think the R14 were the stock size or maybe I’m getting confused?

Is there no chance these 175/65R14 tyres will fit the car?

Also, the rear brakes will not stop squeaking. Previously the garage said the lip on the brakes was causing it and they grinded it down. They now saying the rear brake discs inner surfaces have corroded. How hard would these be to change myself?

Any advice welcome

Cheers

Liam

Changing the rear discs is a nightmare...! Use the forum's search tool and you'll find many a post about this.

What mileage has the car done? There is a little metal tab on the brake pads that is designed to touch the disk to tell you the pads are worn out -- by squealing loudly. Expect around 40,000 miles on the rear brakes before they reach that point. But also, if the car's seen limited use, the rear calipers tend to seize, meaning the pads don't pull away from the discs when the brakes are released again.

 

[the green vanper]

Hello,

The most important in car wheels is circumference. It affects the readings of the sensors, which affect the speedometer / mileage and could affect for example ABS.

Sites like oponeo.co.uk provide accepted tire compatibility calculators:

As you can see, the circumference of the listed tire sizes is not even close (+/-2%) one to each other.

As stated by @Herts Hillhopper, you can't put 15" tires on 14" rims. Nor the opposite.

I have no idea what is the factory installed and homologated wheel / tire size. Both of them (including rims' offset and width) can have an influence on the car handling. The homologated (standard + optionnal sizes) should be listed in the owners' handbook, on the fuel cap or on the B-pillar on the driver's side (together with the proper tire pressure). This information is sometimes found in the European registration certificates (for example German and Italian), no idea if the British V5C lists it, or not.

 

[Herts Hillhopper]

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I have no idea what is the factory installed and homologated wheel / tire size. Both of them (including rims' offset and width) can have an influence on the car handling. The homologated (standard + optionnal sizes) should be listed in the owners' handbook, on the fuel cap or on the B-pillar on the driver's side (together with the proper tire pressure). This information is sometimes found in the European registration certificates (for example German and Italian), no idea if the British V5C lists it, or not.

on the (non Cross) Panda 4x4 (including the Antartica) , original fit wheels and tyres were 175/65R15 on 15 inch diameter wheels. Offset is ET35. Original tyres were Continental CrossContact Winter tyres

On the Cross version (with 4x4), it was originally supplied with 185/65R15s and the wheels were offset ET30 to allow for that extra width. The 4x4 Cross came with Goodyear All Season tyres from the factory.

(From a later date around 2018 I think, Fiat fitted 175/65 r15 summer tyres to all the '4x4'models and non 4x4 Cross's too -- presumably as part of a raising of the overall mpg scores)

 

[the green vanper]

on the (non Cross) Panda 4x4 (including the Antartica) , original fit wheels and tyres were 175/65R15 on 15 inch diameter wheels. Offset is ET35. Original tyres were Continental CrossContact Winter tyres

So the OP has original tires on his Antarctica now At least for the size.

 

[liamjp]

Changing the rear discs is a nightmare...! Use the forum's search tool and you'll find many a post about this.

What mileage has the car done? There is a little metal tab on the brake pads that is designed to touch the disk to tell you the pads are worn out -- by squealing loudly. Expect around 40,000 miles on the rear brakes before they reach that point. But also, if the car's seen limited use, the rear calipers tend to seize, meaning the pads don't pull away from the discs when the brakes are released again.

Thanks for letting me know. The car has only done 29000 miles. It was sat in the garage for a long time as my aunt was in a home and I inherited the vehicle! Yeah the garage wanted £400 to change the brake pads and discs just for the rear. Cheers

 

[Herts Hillhopper]

Thanks for letting me know. The car has only done 29000 miles. It was sat in the garage for a long time as my aunt was in a home and I inherited the vehicle! Yeah the garage wanted £400 to change the brake pads and discs just for the rear. Cheers

I’m not surprised by that figure - thankfully they don’t need doing to often! Mine were done by an independent Fiat specialist who only charge £200 and they quote workshop time as one hour. No one seems to know how they do it so quickly!
See prices here: https://www.fiatworkshop.co.uk/fiat_Panda_fixed_price_servicing.shtml

 

[Panda IIs]

Thanks for letting me know. The car has only done 29000 miles. It was sat in the garage for a long time as my aunt was in a home and I inherited the vehicle! Yeah the garage wanted £400 to change the brake pads and discs just for the rear. Cheers

There are a few myths that have grown up around Panda (4x4 etc) rear disc replacement (such as remove the rear hubs - not necessary). I have done the job myself on the driveway with jack and axle stands in a morning. The first side took about three hours, the second 45 minutes having climbed the learning curve! Have a look here https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/437398-4x4-rear-brake-discs-3.html I would strongly recommend Fiat Workshop but your being in Scarborough might no make this a convenient choice unless you had "business" down this way!

 

[Steveetee55]

Hey guys,

Recently had my car in the garage. They had 175/65R15 tyres on. I have a full set of 175/65R14 tyres that my aunty (previous owner) had bought. These are winter tyres. They said these tyres do not fit the 15 inch rim. I think the R14 were the stock size or maybe I’m getting confused?

Is there no chance these 175/65R14 tyres will fit the car?

Also, the rear brakes will not stop squeaking. Previously the garage said the lip on the brakes was causing it and they grinded it down. They now saying the rear brake discs inner surfaces have corroded. How hard would these be to change myself?

Any advice welcome

Cheers

Liam

I did my rear discs last year on my antartica they are a bit of a faff as you need to slacken off the hub carrier bolts to get at the caliper carrier bolts, they are not an hour job like the front discs, it depends if your OK with a bit of spannering, but allow yourself time because there will be a lot of swearing if you dont

 

[The Panda Nut]

Thanks for letting me know. The car has only done 29000 miles. It was sat in the garage for a long time as my aunt was in a home and I inherited the vehicle! Yeah the garage wanted £400 to change the brake pads and discs just for the rear. Cheers

Fair!