Maybe convert it to Left Hand Drive?........
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General Seat Panda Terra
Maybe convert it to Left Hand Drive?........
I wouldn't worry so much, seeing as none of your electrics work anymore
Strangely enough, the only electrics that work (presently) is the wiper on 'Fast'
I haven't gone away; I am just a man on a mission. See 'Dent Pulling'
I was possibly a little optomistic when I said I was hoping to get back onto the Panda in July.
At this rate it might be July 2014... Humph Not happy
At this rate it might be July 2014... Humph Not happy
Wow, managed a couple of hours on the Panda today. Rah.
Summer is alway a busy time for me and I have other projects on the go, so the little Terra has been on the back burner.
The story so far.
I decided to move the fuse box and i have 3 part looms which have never been joined up together before and this is what I have at the moment
No pretty huh.?
90% of the wiring is actually connected to something now but nothing was happening.
You know that feeling you get when you wiggle wires and you can hear relay's clicking?
The problem I was having getting power at the fuse box was solved when I found that the two big brown wires which come from the power side of the alternator were actually 4 big brown wires with a gap between them inside some plastic conduit.
This has helped and now there are headlamps and indicators (and the wiper on fast) but there are loads of corroded conectors and dodgy earths that need a patient and slow, systematic overhaul. I normally work in a frenetic haze of swearing, throwing and manic activity so I have made the decision to take the Panda back to my house where I can spend some calm quality time with it and bring the Bedford from home to my daughters garage.
So after a measure up to make sure the van would fit; I absandoned ship came home and made some proper ramps for my trailer. I'm getting a bit fed up with scaffold boards breaking, so the new one are steel checker plate beefed up with 2" angle iron. They won't snap. I just hope I can lift them.!!
I did have a quick look at the wiper mount issue
You will notice straight away that there is a size issue. I shall have to make new mounts as well but as that only involved drilling 2 10mm holes I expect I shall cope.
Right then let's see if I can swop the vehicles over tomorrow and then report back.
Oo feels good to be back on the case.
Summer is alway a busy time for me and I have other projects on the go, so the little Terra has been on the back burner.
The story so far.
I decided to move the fuse box and i have 3 part looms which have never been joined up together before and this is what I have at the moment
No pretty huh.?
90% of the wiring is actually connected to something now but nothing was happening.
You know that feeling you get when you wiggle wires and you can hear relay's clicking?
The problem I was having getting power at the fuse box was solved when I found that the two big brown wires which come from the power side of the alternator were actually 4 big brown wires with a gap between them inside some plastic conduit.
This has helped and now there are headlamps and indicators (and the wiper on fast) but there are loads of corroded conectors and dodgy earths that need a patient and slow, systematic overhaul. I normally work in a frenetic haze of swearing, throwing and manic activity so I have made the decision to take the Panda back to my house where I can spend some calm quality time with it and bring the Bedford from home to my daughters garage.
So after a measure up to make sure the van would fit; I absandoned ship came home and made some proper ramps for my trailer. I'm getting a bit fed up with scaffold boards breaking, so the new one are steel checker plate beefed up with 2" angle iron. They won't snap. I just hope I can lift them.!!
I did have a quick look at the wiper mount issue
You will notice straight away that there is a size issue. I shall have to make new mounts as well but as that only involved drilling 2 10mm holes I expect I shall cope.
Right then let's see if I can swop the vehicles over tomorrow and then report back.
Oo feels good to be back on the case.
hmm strange.. on both the panda's i have the 2 holes are the same size..
least you can then use the washer jet from a mk 2 panda.. with the epic split jets.
not as good as a spray bar though
least you can then use the washer jet from a mk 2 panda.. with the epic split jets.
not as good as a spray bar though
I aim mine toward the pavement before I go to pick up friends and then squirt them with my awesome washer jets, endless amounts of fun
heh i just wash the windows just as some one gets out talon.. they get drenched. the spray bar is like having 6 jets. totally floods the windscreen.
OK so amoungst guttering, roof flashing, ordering fence panels, finishing the trailer ramps and booking an Mot; I managed to collect the trailer from where it lives and went to my daughters and loaded up the Panda.
After a lot of musical chairs (vehicles) once at home I had the little car where the van had been and just had time for a short play session.
No you aren't seeing things...... That is a fitted uncracked windscreen. I'm not sure if it was the second or third screen I've tried but full of confindense after the previous practise sessions, all was good.
Oh yeah and I did it the correct way which is to put the rubber onto the windscreen, wrap your piece of cord along the top and sides of the seal and then just fit it.
Ten mins. No probs. Lots of lube and feeling very smug.
If only the electric go as well tomorrow.
After a lot of musical chairs (vehicles) once at home I had the little car where the van had been and just had time for a short play session.
No you aren't seeing things...... That is a fitted uncracked windscreen. I'm not sure if it was the second or third screen I've tried but full of confindense after the previous practise sessions, all was good.
Oh yeah and I did it the correct way which is to put the rubber onto the windscreen, wrap your piece of cord along the top and sides of the seal and then just fit it.
Ten mins. No probs. Lots of lube and feeling very smug.
If only the electric go as well tomorrow.
Well the wiring is a lot tidier now..... Although it is about 40 feet away from the car..... That's about how far I could throw it..!
When I got the little car it had only the rear loom in place. This is 'SEAT' and appears to be in their own colours.
In a box I had 2 (or maybe more) incomplete front looms, so I bunged a mongrel of the two on and simply connected everything up to see what happened.. Well bug*er all happened actually.
So I started going through the system and found loads of cut and broken wires; other wires that didn't correspond with any diagram and colours that might have been off any Fiat picked at random. (Which is a bit how they were built)
I got to the stage where I had headlamps that didn't dip, indicators that didn't flash and no panel lights at all.
It was as I was going through each dash bulb to clean the terminals that the effort and the intermitent earthing, fundimental in any Italian wiring loom, got to me. The abbrieviations in the diagram are in Italian (Z = Violet) and at one point the bit I was looking at was described as "the idiogram light" That was enough.
There was a pair of cutters in range so I cut out all the wires, just leaving the main cable connectors in place, and hurled the rest of the ill begotten mess as far as I could. (But not so far that I couln't reuse it as individual items)
I will reuse the original fuse box in it's new location but I will make my own loom and lose most of the cable and virtually all of the zillion earth cables.
Why do they have so many earths. A reliant Robin was made of fibreglass and never had that many wires. What were they thinking?
I was going to make my own dash; but it would just take longer, so I hav e spent an afternoon studying wiring diagrams and listing each major electrical group by colour
So I now have pages of this stuff.
It is starting to go back together. If nothing else it will weigh a lot less and I won't have the eternal earth faults.
Think of me...................
When I got the little car it had only the rear loom in place. This is 'SEAT' and appears to be in their own colours.
In a box I had 2 (or maybe more) incomplete front looms, so I bunged a mongrel of the two on and simply connected everything up to see what happened.. Well bug*er all happened actually.
So I started going through the system and found loads of cut and broken wires; other wires that didn't correspond with any diagram and colours that might have been off any Fiat picked at random. (Which is a bit how they were built)
I got to the stage where I had headlamps that didn't dip, indicators that didn't flash and no panel lights at all.
It was as I was going through each dash bulb to clean the terminals that the effort and the intermitent earthing, fundimental in any Italian wiring loom, got to me. The abbrieviations in the diagram are in Italian (Z = Violet) and at one point the bit I was looking at was described as "the idiogram light" That was enough.
There was a pair of cutters in range so I cut out all the wires, just leaving the main cable connectors in place, and hurled the rest of the ill begotten mess as far as I could. (But not so far that I couln't reuse it as individual items)
I will reuse the original fuse box in it's new location but I will make my own loom and lose most of the cable and virtually all of the zillion earth cables.
Why do they have so many earths. A reliant Robin was made of fibreglass and never had that many wires. What were they thinking?
I was going to make my own dash; but it would just take longer, so I hav e spent an afternoon studying wiring diagrams and listing each major electrical group by colour
So I now have pages of this stuff.
It is starting to go back together. If nothing else it will weigh a lot less and I won't have the eternal earth faults.
Think of me...................
Nice. if i had to do this, i think i would enjoy it.. i love wiring things up. >_<
i had to do a lot with Talon, and it looks like i am going to have to do a hell of a lot more with the Fallout project.
i had to do a lot with Talon, and it looks like i am going to have to do a hell of a lot more with the Fallout project.
Masochists!
Some years ago when I worked as a washing machine repair man it was easier if a washer needed a replacement program control unit to take one out of another model complete with loom, instead of risking putting one of the 60 odd connectors in the place buggering it up.
Looked a horrendous task when donor and recipient were both in bits.
Dunno what reminded me of all that
Looked a horrendous task when donor and recipient were both in bits.
Dunno what reminded me of all that
I rewired an old mini once. Replaced all the wires one by one with heavier duty wire. It helped that as an electronics engineer I had all the right tools to hand.
I wired a plug once. There were more wires than I had hands, as you can imagine this was a huge problem.
You could have held the red one in your mouth...?
Red to black and brown to green, that's all you need to remember :thumbup:
You just have to remember that red can be brown and it can be called positive , live, feed, supply, power, main or common. Black can be blue and be called negitive or return and green can be yellow and green and be called earth or ground; OK? Oh yeah; or bond.
Sometimes it can be blue or black can be grey but don't get confused about this.
In a switch, blue (which is possibly black) will become 'Live' and will often have a section of brown sleeving placed around it to show that it is live not return.
Although often with switching both wires will be brown because the brown 'on' when the switch is off will 'Feed' the other one when it is switched 'on' so they are both brown anyway. Even if they were blue , grey or black.
That is of course if brown isn't red.
Are you with it so far?
Sometimes it can be blue or black can be grey but don't get confused about this.
In a switch, blue (which is possibly black) will become 'Live' and will often have a section of brown sleeving placed around it to show that it is live not return.
Although often with switching both wires will be brown because the brown 'on' when the switch is off will 'Feed' the other one when it is switched 'on' so they are both brown anyway. Even if they were blue , grey or black.
That is of course if brown isn't red.
Are you with it so far?
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But back to the plot; First up..
Remember how casual I was about remounting the wiper motor to cobvert it from left to right hand drive...?
Well look; guess which wiper motor is left and which is right..?
Remember how casual I was about remounting the wiper motor to cobvert it from left to right hand drive...?
Well look; guess which wiper motor is left and which is right..?
That's pretty neat - your paving looks like wood decking
I expect this is a trick question and my answer is they're both wrong
(It's actually wood made into paving slags)
I expect this is a trick question and my answer is they're both wrong
(It's actually wood made into paving slags)
