New Brava Model Training and Testing

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New Brava Model Training and Testing

for normal driving a diesel is probably best, for B road racing it isnt. guess it depends what your priorities are.

many people who dont understand cars keep away from diesels because they still believe the outdated myths that diesels are rough, noisey and slow. it will take a long time for these ideas to die. these days they certainly aren't any of those things, and with the fuel prices we have they're an increasingly attractive choice.

With regards to fuel prices in Australia, there is not a lot of difference between the price of petrol and diesel (they are taxed at the same rate). That, and generally diesel cars tend to be more expensive than their petrol counterparts (something like $3k-$4k AU more expensive for a C segment car) mean that the cost savings are not achieved unless you do quite a lot of km's, definitely more that I do.

Don't get me wrong, I think the modern diesels have come a long way. They have a lot of poke and a very economical, and they are heaps quieter and smoother than they used to be. They just lack the visceral thrills of a well tuned petrol engine that is all.

Troy.
 
How did the top versions ride?

All the tests I've read from the Euro-launch suggest hard, unsettled and uncomfortable - rather like the Panda 100 I guess? Forgivable in a tiny fun car maybe, but not in a largish family car.

Does anyone know if the've modified the spring/damper rates and the bushes for our market?

All fascinating, especially the comparisons. I really don't trust 'professional' testers at all, they seem to carry their prejudices everywhere with them. Not like Fiat enthusiasts at all...;)

Looks like I must go down to my dealer and see about a T-Jet test drive...can't wait.(y)

Thanks all...
 
With regards to fuel prices in Australia, there is not a lot of difference between the price of petrol and diesel (they are taxed at the same rate).

in UK cost is about the same, but you need to remember a diesel will get much better mpg, so the actual cost per mile is much less.

imagine $1.35 per litre for both (google suggests thats is current price is aus, which is bloody cheap!!! [57p/l])

if diesel gets 50mpg
and petrol gets 35mpg
and you do 12,000 miles per year

12,000/50=240 240*1.35=$342 for years fuel
12,000/35=342 342*1.35=$461 for years fuel


so you'd spend 35% more for fuel with the petrol

the extra it cost to buy a diesel is more than paid for by the lower depriciation and running costs if you keep it for a couple of years.
 
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if diesel gets 50mpg
and petrol gets 35mpg
and you do 12,000 miles per year

12,000/50=240 240*1.35=$342 for years fuel
12,000/35=342 342*1.35=$461 for years fuel


so you'd spend 35% more for fuel with the diesel

Spot the deliberate mistake.

This is just teasing me; my maths is crap and this isn't fair...:devil:
 
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(Thanks to numanR for providing these pictures(y) )
 
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Yes, colours don't seem good. But let's see it in the flesh. Funny how different cars can look in England I often think.

But I really hate that Fiat olive green banner. I mean, olive green! Gorgeous classy blue, or red even, but olive:yuck:
 
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