Technical Fiat doblo 1.3 multijet issues

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Technical Fiat doblo 1.3 multijet issues

The key reading you need is differential pressure - can you please report back (pref in millibars or hpa) what the reading is at idle and at 3000 revs ?

The active regen cycle on these Fiats is not complicated. The 68% is meaningless - it's just a figure the ECU works out from your driving style, time lapsed, miles driven, nothing more scientific than that. It has nothing to do with actual soot levels in the DPF, which is why so much confusion occurs.

Generally speaking, they will do a regen once the calculation is at 80% assuming certain conditions are met (coolant temp over 70, driving for at least 2 minutes, try to maintain 62mph, no engine management light).

Alternatively, once the percentage is over 100, the speed is irrelevant - as long as the other conditions are all met, it'll start regenerating (increasing DPF temp to 650 degrees), even at 20 mph. Just drive normally (even stop start is fine) and it should finish the regen within 10-15 mins.

Try to avoid forced regens if at all possible - if you try to do one of these when the DPF is blocked, you can crack it. The tail pipe test is a good gauge for this - wipe your index finger around the inside of the tailpipe. If it comes out covered in soot, your DPF is damaged. It should not blow any black smoke (soot) out at all.

Unlike other manufacturers, the DPF is poorly implemented in the engine management system. There are only about 4 codes - the two key ones are P1206-22 (level 1 blocking reached) and P2002-22 (level 2 blocking reached). This will appear when the differential pressure is high, but the computed percentage clogging is low. It's then a case of having to try to work out why the differential pressure is high - usually soot getting in from somewhere that the engine hasn't taken into account - can be leaking injectors, dodgy EGRs, blocked oil feeds, blocked coolers, dodgy sensor, blocked sensor pipes, you name it).

Putting DPF additive in the fuel tank is one option, but not guaranteed. You're far better to try some of the DPF foam cleaner (Mannol do one), as it works on dissolving the soot in the DPF, then combusting it through normal engine temperature
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Hope this helps - I've become a bit of a DPF bore since buying my most recent Doblo. If you have any DPF related questions shout up.
Brilliant info thanks, I have noticed a small oil leak from somewhere at back of engine unsure if this can contribute. As sometimes the smoke does have a blue ish tinge, doing a full engine flush oil change and filter as when I checked filter it looked in a righy sorry state as no idea when previous owner last did an oil change altho on diagnostics said last reset oil 30000 km ago so defo due oil change. Might be the oil leak contributing to failed dpf regens perhaps just guessing at this point. I'll get some more data on pressures etc
 
Well update - taken off air box check injectors all seem OK no carbon, taken turbo hose off (inlet side) and caked in oil is this likely to be turbo seal or something else ?
 
Yes I'll try thar thanks, could it not be turbo leak resulting in oil getting into dpf maybe? Hence blue smoke on regen?

DPF blocking is always a symptom rather than a cause. It's really a case of finding out why the DPF is being loaded with soot. May be worthwhile getting a smoke test done on the induction system - most garages should be able to do this, better still a diesel specialist if you can find one. That would rule out anything like turbo boost leaks, etc

Did you get a chance to look at the differential pressure readings ?
 
Going get some dpf foam cleaner and give it a blast

Would recommend you go in either from the pressure pipe nearest to the DPF or even through the lambda sensor at the top. Slow and steady is the way to do it. Wise to do it with engine running, given the DPF's proximity to the turbo - the last thing you want is for the foam to backfill into the turbo and hydrolock your engine (I thought I'd done that first time I used the DPF foam !).
 
Did you find cause of blocked dpf your self?

Garage found it in the end - one of the DPF Doctor franchises, local garage. They do a DPF assessment for £90 and then tell you what the issue is that's causing the DPF to block. It's then up to you what you do next. I chose the expensive option (new turbo) as I need the van for work. It's still not 100%, so I might wang it down to the DPF whisperer, Jimmy O'Riley (see YouTube - O'Riley's Autos - the man is a legend). Learned so much from him.


 
Not yet I'm going get them in a min jusy putting it all back together
Not sure if that's correct pressure you mean flow rate ?
 

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