Cinquecento Cinq Abarth Project 1.4 16v

[dave]

i got flap an head pics in here https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1769

 

[allanhelen]

Didn't think it was available, ]

I wasn't but what man can resist a Black Esprit?

It will be Emerald again, no point using anything else, got all the maps from the Sei so makes sense to do that again as got that to start with.

Would be nice to see if it can cope with the new trick bits too

Couldn't have a bucket to go round the track, got to look half decent as well! plus that Abarth kit has got to be worth 5bhp as its so much slipper through the air with it :slayer:.

too right we all know 1 hours polishing is worth 2bhp

Yeah they are cool, must have been a dealer supplied item seeing as that's two cars we have had have them .

and i like them but a pain in the ass if you want to fit an arch kit

Was looking at Quaife website and they list a diff for the Grande Punto, and as they are so kind as to produce a PDF technical drawing it would be rude to not just drop the diff out and have a look if its compatible as it is a Grande punto gearbox http://www.quaife.co.uk/Fiat-Grande-Punto-Quaife-ATB-Differential

Nooo how can you say this ? you are just as bad as those reprabates trying to get me to supercharge the MX5

Good luck with it any way! I'm hand if you need some brute force to make it fit

 

[randomizered]

Was looking at Quaife website and they list a diff for the Grande Punto, and as they are so kind as to produce a PDF technical drawing it would be rude to not just drop the diff out and have a look if its compatible as it is a Grande punto gearbox http://www.quaife.co.uk/Fiat-Grande-Punto-Quaife-ATB-Differential

If you look at the pdf tech drawing, it says its for a 1.3 uno or 1.4 gt

 

[StoneNewt]

:yeahthat:
However the 'box housing & diff housing (I seem to remember) can be modified so that everything fits.

 

[foxyemx]

If you look at the pdf tech drawing, it says its for a 1.3 uno or 1.4 gt

Yeah saw that the part number "QDH2K" is the same across many Fiats/Alfas/Lancia's everything from 1.3MJ to 2L 16V T, just one of those things that would be nice and you get all excited when a new project stars and you are full of enthusiasm and look all over the net for stuff that would be on a wish list.

 

[blu73]

Just looking back at the pics, is that how high a standard cinq is!?!?!? Looks Soooo high!

you always seem to find Cinquecentos with them rub strips on the sides eh

I got a cinq with rub strips, they different to them ones though (and better IMO)...

 

[dave]

Just looking back at the pics, is that how high a standard cinq is!?!?!? Looks Soooo high!


I got a cinq with rub strips, they different to them ones though (and better IMO)...

got no engine in has it? be loads higher with no engine

 

[Brooky]

Check that out for high then

 

[blu73]

got no engine in has it? be loads higher with no engine

but back is just as high...

 

[J333EVO]

The pics of the car are with engine in it, yes that is how high they sit on standard suspension and little wheels.

Some engine pics, nice working with something so clean and new

 

[J333EVO]

Cylinder head twin port thing

 

[arc]

are you planning to have the inlet fully open, cut them walls back and knife-edge the wall in the ports?

 

[J333EVO]

are you planning to have the inlet fully open, cut them walls back and knife-edge the wall in the ports?

That is the thought process, the ports are much smaller than the ports on the engine we fitted to the Seicento, it had brilliant ports on it, it would have been hard to make any improvements on it.

 

[arc]

what about using a 1242 16v head on it instead, they are easier to come by and would get rid of the issue

 

[dave]

you got a non air con alternator, i didn't know you could get them. i be off to get one of them now

 

[J333EVO]

Yes the 1242 head has been thought of, the engine's head is in pieces at moment and weighing up different options.

Yes the engine was removed from a non-aircon Grande Punto.

May consider taking some weight out of the flywheel as well, as its brand new so not like its damaged in anyway so good starting point, though to be fair its not the heaviest flywheel ever but I read that something like 2kg from outer edge of flywheel is equivalent of 100kgs off the weight of the car when performing a standing start, that can't be bad.

Some great stuff on this site
http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/FLYWHEEL.htm

 

[arc]

I see the water rail off the pump is different too, but assume the hole for the old style rail is still there just not used?

 

[J333EVO]

I see the water rail off the pump is different too, but assume the hole for the old style rail is still there just not used?

Yeah same size hole, so Cento water pipe fits no problem.

 

[dave]

there is a different kind of seal on the GP one, not sure if it matters though.

got a pic of the head insides yet? i never took mine off to see

 

[J333EVO]

there is a different kind of seal on the GP one, not sure if it matters though.

got a pic of the head insides yet? i never took mine off to see

No pics of head off, cam carrier is off though and cams have been removed I believe, but I was working over weekend so not seen it yet.