Technical Car stalled and now will not start

[Texas149]

Don't think it is stop/start compatable as when I put in the Reg of Daughters car on the EuroCarParts website it came back with two case Sizes and a selection of manufactures for each size.

One case size was the 202 and ranged from £70 to £100 before the discount and the other case size was 027 EFB which I guess means S/S suitable and was £163 to £245!!!

Link here but I expect prices to go out of date! https://www.eurocarparts.com/car-battery

So As my daughters car has Not got SS I went for the Duracell DA42. The 5 yr Gtee swayed it.
Paul m.

 

[sams500]

Just to update the thread. I fitted the new battery and the car started but with an engine light and no revs. It was difficult starting and very sluggish.

Reading around it seems like the crank sensor is gone but am not sure. Is this a diy thing or do I need to go to a fiat dealer?

Thanks

 

[varesecrazy]

Just to update the thread. I fitted the new battery and the car started

Reading around it seems like the crank sensor is gone but am not sure. Is this a diy thing or do I need to go to a fiat dealer?

Thanks

Some progress..
Get the warning light diagnosed before spending on parts..

If its a timing sensor..they are relatively essy to change..

2 out of 5 ..need tools and patience..

Charlie

 

[sams500]

For the warning light , I presume I just go th Halfords and get a quote to fix

 

[Texas149]

For the warning light , I presume I just go th Halfords and get a quote to fix

I hope you got a winning lottery ticket then if you go down this route!

Paul m.

 

[varesecrazy]

For the warning light , I presume I just go th Halfords and get a quote to fix

A cheap code reader would do the job.ten pounds upwards.

Strange how a new battery made a difference.

Maybe jiggling the earth cable improved a poor contact...

Where is the car based?

 

[sams500]

Car is in Ruislip. I did have a quick look on eBay they seem to be around £18.

Garages are quoting £45 around here for a check, will take a look for a reader.


That surprises me as well. I am wonder if the sensor was an issue and that just exacerbated the battery’s demise. I really don’t know why the sensors, if that’s what it is, failed.

 

[varesecrazy]

I use a VS600.. does a bit more then read engine codes.
ON EBAY the prices seem to have have dropped to @£27

Charlie . Oxford

 

[sams500]

Will this work?

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOPDON-TD3...nostic-Scanner-MS309-/263230193810?nav=SEARCH

 

[jrkitching]

Will this work?

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOPDON-TD300-OBD2-Car-Fault-Code-Reader-OBDII-EOBD-DIY-Diagnostic-Scanner-MS309-/263230193810?nav=SEARCH

It's not a brand I've ever heard of.

Let's see now:

A cheap Chinese scanner containing dubious and most likely undocumented electronics of unknown quality, with your only contact being a website, and you're proposing to plug this into a car costing many thousands of pounds, directly connecting to a number of electronically fragile computer modules which would collectively cost thousands to replace.

Let's consider the possible outcomes:

1. You might be extremely lucky and it will actually work and give you useful information

2. You might be very lucky and it will work, but not be sufficiently Fiat-specific to interrogate the modules you need information from

3. You might be lucky and find that, although it doesn't work, it doesn't actually damage your car

4. You can guess the rest.

You could buy a properly documented OBDII reader from a well known manufacturer, which will at least give you some chance of comeback if things don't work out too well.

You could even buy some cables and a licenced copy of MES, which will safely diagnose both this and any other problems you're likely to get with your Fiat, for less than the cost of a single main dealer diagnostic.

At the end of the day, it's your choice.

Call me old fashioned, but I'm extremely choosy about what I'll allow to be plugged into my OBDII port. Strangely, this is one of the few automotive concepts that Ladykitching can also associate with.

 

[Pathaleon]

I’d personally just buy the cables and mes also. Not particularly expensive and it’s a powerful tool.

Will more than likely come in useful again for yourself if not for a friend of nearby forum member!

 

[sams500]

Just an update, the car went for a MOT and all of a sudden the rev counter is working, but the engine management light is on.

I am going to get this - any feedback?

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/MS309-OBD2...an-Diagnostic-Too-SS-/232640281565?nav=SEARCH

 

[jrkitching]

I am going to get this - any feedback?

It's all been said already - see post #30.

Stop being a cheapskate and buy a a licensed copy of MES and a suitable cable. You're saving a fortune by not taking it to a franchised dealer, so invest a few pounds in what is probably the only affordable aftermarket tool that'll give you sufficient information to diagnose this properly.

 

[sams500]

Thanks I am being tight! I will get the vs600 Charlie recommended