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With the 1.2 4x4
If you fit only slightly bigger malatesta kobra tyres 185/75R14 you will need 20mm wheel spacers, and also cut quite a lot of the wheel arch and bumpers away
Possibly need a 20mm lift as well, not sure
The car is now also geared up and will struggle to reach 65mph, and small gradients will slow it down
If you fit only slightly bigger malatesta kobra tyres 185/75R14 you will need 20mm wheel spacers, and also cut quite a lot of the wheel arch and bumpers away
Possibly need a 20mm lift as well, not sure
The car is now also geared up and will struggle to reach 65mph, and small gradients will slow it down
Body modifications yes there's not much room under the arches
I don't know of anyone that's fitted AT tyres to the diesel
Depends what you want to do with the car, green lanes or occasionally farm tracks
The 4x4 is pretty capable as standard, especially with some mildly aggressive tyres
I use to take my 2wd panda across fields and tracks, hitting the exhaust was fairly common, but the 4x4 has a slightly higher ride already
I don't know of anyone that's fitted AT tyres to the diesel
Depends what you want to do with the car, green lanes or occasionally farm tracks
The 4x4 is pretty capable as standard, especially with some mildly aggressive tyres
I use to take my 2wd panda across fields and tracks, hitting the exhaust was fairly common, but the 4x4 has a slightly higher ride already
You can go fairly aggressive within the wheel arch
These are 145 80 R13 mud and snow, I believe these fit, road noise will be terrible though
@porta your man, that what they used there panda for
We started of with AT tyres the problem with these is there is approximately a 10mm of extra rubber above the carcass size changing the gearing
These all season
No idea how they preform, but they are almost identical to my full snow tyres though
We started of with AT tyres the problem with these is there is approximately a 10mm of extra rubber above the carcass size changing the gearing
These all season
No idea how they preform, but they are almost identical to my full snow tyres though
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Winter tyres are your friend. As long as sloppy mud and deep ruts are not a problem, my 2WD drive Panda on winter tyres, with some planning and careful placement, took me to plenty of places I had no right to be. Many of the 4x4's would watch and wait in anticipation 
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Ahh the age ond issue of tyres, the petrol needed the arches ‘teasing in’ with a hammer and the plastic altering slightly, but did manage to warm up the black trims and refit them. These were 175/65, (14”) more aggressive treads than the AT as my cars have to perform on the farm. The 1.2 needed 8mm spacers to stop them rubbing on the front springs (I had 10mm ones on the cross so used the same).
The diesel cross already had 175/65, (15”) as its suspension is already higher, but I had to alter front bumper slightly as it caught on full lock. Then I got some punto sport wheels to keep my really aggressive treads on, that necessitated the 10mm spacers to keep the offset right.
One thing you do need to be aware of is really aggressive treads do NOT match the circumstances of the standard carcass they are made on, they can be bigger in diameter by 10-20mm in my experience.
I don’t rate the all season tyres for anything other than light ice and snow on the road, and they’re still crap with mud.
The 1.2 was still powerful enough for us to keep up with normal traffic and overtake, and we used it up Scotland and Cornwall/Devon. The diesel is superior in low down torque and has the advantage of ‘diff lock’, but then, if you’re only going up n down farm tracks, the 1.2 is more than capable
The diesel cross already had 175/65, (15”) as its suspension is already higher, but I had to alter front bumper slightly as it caught on full lock. Then I got some punto sport wheels to keep my really aggressive treads on, that necessitated the 10mm spacers to keep the offset right.
One thing you do need to be aware of is really aggressive treads do NOT match the circumstances of the standard carcass they are made on, they can be bigger in diameter by 10-20mm in my experience.
I don’t rate the all season tyres for anything other than light ice and snow on the road, and they’re still crap with mud.
The 1.2 was still powerful enough for us to keep up with normal traffic and overtake, and we used it up Scotland and Cornwall/Devon. The diesel is superior in low down torque and has the advantage of ‘diff lock’, but then, if you’re only going up n down farm tracks, the 1.2 is more than capable
I had these, 175/65 14 on the 1.2 petrol
Noisy but good, not sure if you can still get them:
Noisy but good, not sure if you can still get them:
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Yup, all my front wheel drive fiats, and even the amigo, from 127&8 to punto MK2 were fine in the snow with M&S tyres on, the strada and Tipo not so…the punto sporting bumper was like a snowplough so you couldn’t get far in deep stuffWinter tyres are your friend. As long as sloppy mud and deep ruts are not a problem, my 2WD drive Panda on winter tyres, with some planning and careful placement, took me to plenty of places I had no right to be. Many of the 4x4's would watch and wait in anticipation
So it's only the diesel with diff lock
It’s not a true diff lock, but you really wouldn’t notice the difference, from what you say you’re using it for, it’s all electrickery…the petrol version has the advantage of less weight over the front wheels. It’s also simple to fit a lift kit, spacers which just lower the strut tops. They generally only lift 25mm, and you shouldn’t go higher without longer drop links, centre bearing mounting spacer, shocks etc.
I’ve been off-road with mates Landy and Jeep in the petrol, and I wasn’t the one who skidded off the ‘track’ in 8”snow. I did, however, struggle on a bit of snow wehn we were in a rocky patch and I got the bumper caught. We lifted it off and only scuffed it…I just altered my course and off we went
Lifted like the petrol, not the cross, limited slip diff type capabilities…not driven one or know anyone that has, but do know someone that had a qubo so equipped and it got them out of a boggy festival
Cheers for that. I've seen a tidy low milage one for sale. The better mpg than the 4x4 would come in handy.
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Ive not tried a Trekking but I had a Golf with ASR which amounts to much the same thing and even that was capable of getting up very icy slopes so a Trekking with winter tyres would be a step up from the 2wd. My experience of the Panda 4x4 suggests that if you get stuck you are either very unlucky, doing something really stupid or trying to get stuck. Wet sloppy mud may do for you but I cannot conceive of circumstances that would stop me getting home in mine.
