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Imagine crashing on the motorway in these circumstances.

1) Driving a 2020 car driven at 70mph.

2) Driving a 2010 car at 60mph.

3) Driving a 2000 car at 50mph.

Assuming the circumstances of the crash are identical, apart from the speed, and later car have the latest safety features, which is safest? And why?
 
Imagine crashing on the motorway in these circumstances.

1) Driving a 2020 car driven at 70mph.

2) Driving a 2010 car at 60mph.

3) Driving a 2000 car at 50mph.

Assuming the circumstances of the crash are identical, apart from the speed, and later car have the latest safety features, which is safest? And why?
2020 car, is going to be built to sustain much more high energy impacts than the older cars. 2010 would still be a fairly safe car by many standards however if you consider the difference between 60 - 70mph that is still a pretty high energy crash, and I think the car would still be the deciding factor rather than just the speed.

I remember cars in the 2000 going through NCAP which was only introduced in the 90s, so cars passing NCAP back then, wouldn't stand a hope in hells chance these days.

One big consideration is the mechanism of the accident, what they hit, where they hit it position of the car (ie side on, front on etc) and this will have a far bigger bearing on the survivability of the accident than just the age or speed alone.

another thing to consider is the car. ie a 2010 S-class merc is probably always going to be safe than a 2020 budget economy car.

Back in the early 2000s the company I worked for at the time, in the motor trade sold a Saxo to a youngster who wrapped it wound the front of a Mercedes on his way home. The Mercedes driver was totally unharmed, I think it was a 2 or 3 year old Saxo at the time so not an "old" car, he and his passenger were killed instantly and we panicked when he heard there had been a death and pulled all the maintenance records on the car- turns out he was just driving like a bell end, overtaking on a single track road with oncoming traffic and not enough power to complete the maneuver in time
 
Interesting reply. This has prompted me to dig around again and try an AI answer. It said something to the effect that a 2020 car is 30-60% safer than a 2010 car. What it didn't do was compare speeds as per my question.

It appeared to split the safety % improvement up into components, so there was an improvement in structural integrity, crumple zones and airbags.

But also things like cruise control, blind-spot monitoring, automatic high beams, a rearview camera, and lane departure warnings. I should research these because its not really apparent how they'd improve safety that much. A little for sure.
 
But also things like cruise control, blind-spot monitoring, automatic high beams, a rearview camera, and lane departure warnings. I should research these because its not really apparent how they'd improve safety that much. A little for sure.
But none of these things are gonna make a blind bit of difference to safety once the accident has happened are they?
 
But none of these things are gonna make a blind bit of difference to safety once the accident has happened are they?
True. I've never had an accident, so i don't really need any of them.

This begs the question, is there a way of making an older Fiat car safer in an actual crash by adding extra equipment?

It is also begs the question, if everything else on my cars need maintenance how do i know that the airbags are going to work if i needed them to?
 
It is also begs the question, if everything else on my cars need maintenance how do i know that the airbags are going to work if i needed them to?
If you’re gonna think about things like that then I’m surprised you even get off your drive, let alone go anywhere near a motorway! One thing I’ve learnt is the only driving you can control is your own. And if i did worry about things like that, i certainly wouldn’t be buying ageing Puntos, as i’m sure there’s far stronger cars to be in if the worst does happen
 
If you’re gonna think about things like that then I’m surprised you even get off your drive, let alone go anywhere near a motorway!

Lol. I'm not worried really, just engaging in chit chat. I presume if the airbag was faulty I'd get a warning light. Well maybe, unless that's faulty lol.

One thing I’ve learnt is the only driving you can control is your own. And if i did worry about things like that, i certainly wouldn’t be buying ageing Puntos, as i’m sure there’s far stronger cars to be in if the worst does happen
I should get some more metal around myself. Wish I could get a tank, or lorry even. It might make parking at the coop difficult:)
 
It said something to the effect that a 2020 car is 30-60% safer than a 2010 car.
That's a pretty big difference.
It appeared to split the safety % improvement up into components, so there was an improvement in structural integrity, crumple zones and airbags.
A lot of newer cars use boron-Steel alloys which are much harder than just steel alone. The weight of cars has also gone up to reflect the increasing need for more metal to keep getting those 5 star NCAP results. Finally the cars themselves have gotten bigger, I think I saw something the other day about the new Mini Countryman being bigger than the original Range Rover (Classic) which having owned one I don't find all that hard to believe.

Bigger cars bigger crumple zones.

People walk away from 70mph crashes that in the past would have resulted in multiple fatalities.

But also things like cruise control,
Not going to stop an accident.
blind-spot monitoring,
Might stop you doing something silly like changing lanes without looking but is still reliant on the driver understanding the warning.
automatic high beams,
I have these on my Golf.... Definitely not going to stop an accident but occasionally might blind an oncoming driver.
a rearview camera,
If you are looking out the back then you're not focused on whats in front. Again unlikely to prevent any of the 50 - 60 - 70mph accidents discussed above. Might prevent a prang in a car park but honestly if you can look at a camera screen you can look at a mirror, you could also look over your shoulder, or just fit all round parking sensors.
and lane departure warnings.
Same as blind spot monitoring only useful if the driver understands the warning, also people get irritated by them, turn them off and then they are no use.


I should research these because its not really apparent how they'd improve safety that much. A little for sure.
 
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