No you couldn't have. No one has ever done anything near that in a panda or 500
Styling What the Americans are doing to modding the 500
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Depends where you live. Ours were none too great and other States I've travelled aren't fantastic.
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US rating for fuel is MON, which different from UK rating for fuel, which is RON.
To convert from US to UK its US rating X 1.044 which gets you a pretty close estimate;
Therefore US91 x 1.044= UK 95.004
Just like a US gallon is less than a UK gallon so you have to convert to see what a US car would do here as US gallon is smaller. So if a car does 30mpg in the states, its something like 35mpg here, but can't be bothered to check it for accuracy.
Yea i usually just add/take away 17% as this is the size difference between the US/UK gallon.
3.78 litres in the US gallon, 4.546 litres in the UK.
Don't tell anyone, but for the past 165 miles, i've had 48 MPG from the Abarth too
3.78 litres in the US gallon, 4.546 litres in the UK.
Don't tell anyone, but for the past 165 miles, i've had 48 MPG from the Abarth too
Well it depends how extreme you want to go! Of course there's the couple who averaged 127 MPG over 3700 miles in a Peugeot diesel, but they probably weren't driving "normally"
Or take a peek at the MPG Marathon results, iirc, someone got 83 MPG in the Fiat Fiorino van with the same 1.3 MJ engine a year or two ago (or 30 MPG for the Corvette V8 driven by Hammond!)
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The US are also ? using OKI. conversion rate is 0.95
So OKI 87 becomes RON 91/92 whilst
OKI 91/92 becomes RON 95 which is our 'standard' equivalent.
The US 500 has been designed to run on the OKI 87 stuff so with the 'dual three way catalytic converter' this may explain the drop in horses.
Also their chasis has been strenghtened for roll over protection and the rear suspension has redesigned for 'more travel' - this may explain why a lot of mods are putting 17s on.
If you move 'down the list of changes' you'll come across the suspension...
http://www.fiat500usa.com/search/label/Evolution
There has also been criticism that the MA are not getting more than the European 37mpg but this may be down to weight gain (1074kgs-1106kgs) and the restrictive cat.
I understand putting on a sports car and a performance mainfold can increase mpg by up to 6 mpg if you can go easy on the right foot.
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I just watched the video. On the downhills they completely turn the engine off and they were only averaging just over 70mpg. Looked like they were doing 45-50mph on the motorways as well. With the engine of course there is no power steering or assistance from the brakes. It's a competition and they were driving in a way which they themselves admit is not particularly safe to be doing on the open road.
If you want meaningless figures you can do stuff like drive to the top of a long downhill descent and zero your trip, but to then pretend that this is real world is just silly and attention seeking.
Downhill in gear the car uses no fuel either.
Anyway, to get back on topic, the prices that the yanks are being charged for the current over the counter mods seem extortionate, but I look forward to seeing if any of the big players take on a 500 for SEMA in November.
Cheers
D
Anyway, to get back on topic, the prices that the yanks are being charged for the current over the counter mods seem extortionate, but I look forward to seeing if any of the big players take on a 500 for SEMA in November.
Cheers
D
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It'll use a little bit of fuel, but these people are of course going for the bestest consumption possible.
****ing hell Dan, if you think bragging about fuel figures is a good way to get attention then you are a whole lot sadder than i thought you were. And i thought you were really sad anyway!
Still, good way to clear a room at a party no doubt...
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Saw an article in the local magazine stand about supercharging. This is or possibly was quite a craze in the US. On the MX5 that I had, a lot of petrol heads were fitting one in the US. The argument was that it gave a cleaner delivery of power without the surge that you get from a turbo when it comes on boost (remember the MX5 was rear wheel drive with no electronic aids). In the UK BBR were doing a turbo charged one but it was murdering the gearbox. Realise that a turbo is much more fuel efficient that a supercharger. On our current 500 the only way to really boost the power without going with rebuilding half the engine is to supercharge (that's if you can live the bulge on the bonnet) and if you can get it insured . IF you think of the esseesse in the Abarth - this was a way of circumventing the 'approval' needed for a new 'car'. I really doubt if the emissions are the same as the standard Abarth despite what they say. A TA on full boost is bound to be putting out more **** into the atmosphere than a NA 1.4
Still I wouldn't be surprised if some of our US folks will be hot rodding the MA yet.
. IF you think of the esseesse in the Abarth - this was a way of circumventing the 'approval' needed for a new 'car'. I really doubt if the emissions are the same as the standard Abarth despite what they say. A TA on full boost is bound to be putting out more **** into the atmosphere than a NA 1.4 Still I wouldn't be surprised if some of our US folks will be hot rodding the MA yet.
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can you get 'modded' washer jets:devil:
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A lot of your probably know that are US cousins are getting the A500 in 2012 and that would be with the MA and a few more bits like the new Panda 2012 chasis, etc. Deposits are been taken on new orders. What I didn't know until to day was that the Abarths are being sold alongside the normal models (acknowledgement to geeded on the US forum) i.e. no dedicated Abarth garages. This is a very positive move but it will probably impact on the mods that will be done to the standard 500 since the A500 will be more readily available.
You're surprised that there aren't going to be abarth only dealers in the US? Why will it impact upon modifications to the standard 500?
Some of my mates from the US on Xweb (X1/9) forum have ordered. At least one (my mate Dave) is already modding. Just last week I sent a set of Abarth 500 springs to him in Philly.
The guys at Midwest Bayless (US Classic Fiat Specialist) are on the hunt now for one of the Prima Editizione 500's that has been equivalent of Cat D'd to turn into a club race car now. Performance-wise they're keen to get into cracking the ECU and see what they can twist out of it.
The guys at Midwest Bayless (US Classic Fiat Specialist) are on the hunt now for one of the Prima Editizione 500's that has been equivalent of Cat D'd to turn into a club race car now. Performance-wise they're keen to get into cracking the ECU and see what they can twist out of it.
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Came across this on the 500 US web site and given the title of the thread I thought it would be as good a place as any to post it.
See if you can spot some of the 'anomalies' in the clip.
See if you can spot some of the 'anomalies' in the clip.
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Hmmmm the seat covers look interesting, more so the ones in black 9not shown being changed in the film) which seem to cover the whole seat not leaving out the side parts as the red ones seem to. Can't find seat covers on their website though.
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Even if you could get the covers - they probably wouldn't fit - the US seats are bigger.
I thought it was interesting to see the video on changing the steering wheel - something I would attempt now - he made it look so easy with that expensive airbag !
Answers ?
1. Abarth sign on the leather gaiter - a bit of a 'no no' in a standard 500.
2. Seat covers probably affect the operation of the airbags.
3. The gear knob - no gear selection signs except for reverse.
4. The seats being covered were the houndscloth with white head restraints whilst the ambiance on the dash was black.
Came across this on the 500 US web site and given the title of the thread I thought it would be as good a place as any to post it.
See if you can spot some of the 'anomalies' in the clip.
YouTube - Personalizza la tua Fiat 500 con pomello, cuffia, volante e coprisedile BLACK
The window controls are the european ones and not the USA ones.
