Technical Water Pump and Belt Kit

[Adam1984]

Hello.

I got some recommendations of a water pump and belt kit to use.

I have been told either Gates or Dayco.

How many teeth would I know what my car has and which would you choose out of these brands or would you suggest another?

Thank you.

 

[Eltezz]

I personally would buy the genuine kit from Shop4parts:

Timing belt & water pump

Guaranteed to fit and not cause any post fitting issues if done correctly…

 

[Adam1984]

I personally would buy the genuine kit from Shop4parts:

Timing belt & water pump

Guaranteed to fit and not cause any post fitting issues if done correctly…

SKF brand

Or the Genuine FCA part? As they sell 2 types

 

[Eltezz]

As I said, the genuine kit, which is the FCA part.

 

[Herts Hillhopper]

FCA is Fiat Chrysler Automobiles

The ‘belt’ is the engine timing belt. This is not an easy thing to replace: several previous posts about issues where it wasn’t quite done right. A set of Fiat engine locking tools is advised as well. (I’m assuming this is a 1.2 car?)

 

[Adam1984]

Yes it's a petrol 1.2 car. I was advised to get either Gates or Dayco, but any others your recommend or are these good choices?

I hear Gates have special grooves on the belts.

And how many teeth variant would I need for my car?

Thanks

FCA is Fiat Chrysler Automobiles

The ‘belt’ is the engine timing belt. This is not an easy thing to replace: several previous posts about issues where it wasn’t quite done right. A set of Fiat engine locking tools is advised as well. (I’m assuming this is a 1.2 car?)

 

[Herts Hillhopper]

Yes it's a petrol 1.2 car. I was advised to get either Gates or Dayco, but any others your recommend or are these good choices?

I hear Gates have special grooves on the belts.

And how many teeth variant would I need for my car?

Thanks

When you order the part - eg from Shop4Parts, they will select the right part based on your VIN (chassis) number, which they can look up from your registration plate. Are you planning to fit it yourself? As well as the belt and pump, a new tensioner might be a good move too - they’re whole kit will have this. Have a read of a few other posts here, such as this one for starters - then scroll down to ‘similar threads’ to see more

Timing belt change now misfire | FIAT Panda (2012+)

Hello, I have a 2013 1.2 petrol panda. I recently changed the alternator belt and the timing belt, making marks to ensure the cogs were in the same place as before I took the old belt off. I started the engine and it sounded better and smoother than it was before. No issues. However, I took it...

www.fiatforum.com

 

[irc]

Gates seem to be noisier than Dayco.
Personally I use FCA or SKF by choice, but I would be happy to use the other two if they were not available.

 

[Adam1984]

Gates seem to be noisier than Dayco.
Personally I use FCA or SKF by choice, but I would be happy to use the other two if they were not available.

Any reason why SKF are so much cheaper. I think eurocarparts is selling the SKF full set for £35

 

[irc]

They are not usually that much cheaper. Is it a full SKF kit (SKF belt, SKF tensioner and SKF water pump), or have they put together bits from random companies?
I've had this before from a supplier I no longer use, although I would hope ECP would know better.

 

[Adam1984]

They are not usually that much cheaper. Is it a full SKF kit (SKF belt, SKF tensioner and SKF water pump), or have they put together bits from random companies?
I've had this before from a supplier I no longer use, although I would hope ECP would know better.

 

[irc]

I normally pay about £50 for SKF (VKMC 02206) kit.
If ECP offer is real then go for it.

 

[Adam1984]

I normally pay about £50 for SKF (VKMC 02206) kit.
If ECP offer is real then go for it.

Is it the right amount of teeth needed for my car, as I have seen two variants when I put my reg in.

 

[irc]

As I haven't got your car's details I can't be sure, that was only an example, but its what I've used on a 2013 Panda, as well as various 500s, a Ford Ka and late 169 Pandas, which *probably* have the same engine. Fiat part number is 71776007, and it has 129 teeth.

Check yours in EPER (link at top of forum page) for definitive information.

 

[Adam1984]

As I haven't got your car's details I can't be sure, that was only an example, but its what I've used on a 2013 Panda, as well as various 500s, a Ford Ka and late 169 Pandas, which *probably* have the same engine. Fiat part number is 71776007, and it has 129 teeth.

Check yours in EPER (link at top of forum page) for definitive information.

My reg is YO15 WPD if you can check please

 

[irc]

My reg is YO15 WPD if you can check please

I can't check from registration number, only the VIN, and it isn't a good idea to post your VIN on a public forum.
If you follow the EPER link above, and enter your VIN number, you can check it yourself.

 

[Adam1984]

I can't check from registration number, only the VIN, and it isn't a good idea to post your VIN on a public forum.
If you follow the EPER link above, and enter your VIN number, you can check it yourself.

Perfect thank you.

I just purchased the SKF one, was £38.99 .

My mechanic friend can fit for £80

 

[Herts Hillhopper]

Did you read the thread I mentioned? This comes from it. You might give it some thought…(not doubting your mechanic friend, only noting that it’s seen as a specialist task). It was posted by this forum’s moderator

Post in thread 'Timing belt change now misfire'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/timing-belt-change-now-misfire.501277/post-4784395

 

[Adam1984]

Did you read the thread I mentioned? This comes from it. You might give it some thought… it was posed by this forum’s moderator:

Post in thread 'Timing belt change now misfire'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/timing-belt-change-now-misfire.501277/post-4784395

Yes. But do you mean don't get the SKF brand?

 

[Herts Hillhopper]

Yes. But do you mean don't get the SKF brand?

No - only the observation that this has a reputation for being difficult to fit correctly.