Technical Turbo'ing Burple!

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Technical Turbo'ing Burple!

Dastek don't have a good rep either. Fine for power runs, but actually setting something up......well there are many nasty stories.

Cheers

SPD

you hear horror stories about most tuning shops, though :( i bet there isnt a single tuner out there who doesnt have someone slagging them off. JDM Dyno a few miles away from me, has done some excellent work on cars but has plenty of horror stories as well.
 
get it live mapped if its too low for the rollers, green light sits next to red light that starts up when ignitions turned on, prob wont see it injecting on standstill tho unless you take it high up the revs.
 
get it live mapped if its too low for the rollers, green light sits next to red light that starts up when ignitions turned on, prob wont see it injecting on standstill tho unless you take it high up the revs.


Just about to say about the 2nd injector light (y)

Alaina get it trailored down to the place the Lloyd clan go to.. 1320 auto's nice litttle jaunt and go to Trax at the same time ;)
 
you could get a wideband and do it yourself...?

Had a night out with the boys last night, one of whom works on jap turbo cars. He also suggested a wideband.

Anyone care to tell me more.

It was suggested that a good wideband would cost less than a rolling road session.

Is this something that can be fitted, maybe alongside the mf2 so modom can class it as a 'mod'.

Cheers

SPD
 
wow, well i've just finished reading every page of this thread. its been an intense read. i was before thinking of turboing my car before but i've had a total re-think and put it off into the future! not because of the work involved because id enjoy the challenge and learning curve, it's the costs involved that i hadn't really thought about. the car "burple" looks amazing by the way.
 
It was suggested that a good wideband would cost less than a rolling road session.

Is this something that can be fitted, maybe alongside the mf2 so modom can class it as a 'mod'.

Yep. Whether it'll be cheaper, though, depends very much on the RR. You need the wideband lambda itself (like a narrowband, but capable of reading more than pretty much on and off) and some gubbins to translate the signal into something sensible, and a guage to impress passengers. You're probably looking at 200 quid and a bit for the lot.

My own (utterly heretical) opinion is that the MF2 plus standard ECU setup is evil and should be replaced by almost any aftermarket ECU, (after all, with a wideband you're pretty much half way to a Megasquirt) but you don't want to hear that. ;)
 
thats just the gauge though :confused:

look at Innovate wideband packages, they seem to be good value for money and quality kit.

"A 0-4 volt analogue output can be connected to a data-logger or to an ECU to provide a real time closed loop feedback for improved mapping. Supplied complete with wiring harness and includes Bosch sensor." :)
 
Had a night out with the boys last night, one of whom works on jap turbo cars. He also suggested a wideband.

Anyone care to tell me more.

It was suggested that a good wideband would cost less than a rolling road session.

Is this something that can be fitted, maybe alongside the mf2 so modom can class it as a 'mod'.

Cheers

SPD
a certain ex of mine had a wideband lambda, but for the life of me I cant remeber where he got it from or what it was. I just remember it having flashy coloured lights and a digi display with a number on.
Correct me if im wrong but is it giving a reading of how much the cars over fueling or under fueling? so it would help us by seeing if the extra injector is working or not? cause if its not burple will be under fueling, or would it be able to tell that cause its an extra injector? so would she be running lean if the extra injector wasnt working and the air coming from the turbo.... essentialy produding a higher air to fuel ratio??

sorry im thinking out loud, just trying to work out what good it would do.



wow, well i've just finished reading every page of this thread. its been an intense read. i was before thinking of turboing my car before but i've had a total re-think and put it off into the future! not because of the work involved because id enjoy the challenge and learning curve, it's the costs involved that i hadn't really thought about. the car "burple" looks amazing by the way.

Thanks :) glad the threads helped lol!
 
The EML should not be coming on at all, something is not right there, might be the FCD or possibly it could be running mega rich so the lambda is triggering the fault

The green light is quite easy to kick into action (at least on mine) but it will need to be on boost and at the boost pressure it was set up to inject at. You should see a solid red light when the ignition is on the red lights that flash are per 1000rpm so they should go up and down in knight rider mode as you rev the engine

Wide bands are fine I have one plumbed into my car but it is a two man job to try and tune the car unless you have some form of data logging, but even better it gives you another pretty gauge you can fit into the car ;) although to be honest on these cars where the fuelling is so critical I would get it set up on the RR and then fit a wide band and gauge so you can keep an eye on things.

Edit forgot to add remember super unleaded only from now on preferably 99 octane so Tesco 99 or Optimax
 
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The EML should not be coming on at all, something is not right there, might be the FCD or possibly it could be running mega rich so the lambda is triggering the fault

hmmm wil need to work out whats going on there then :(
The green light is quite easy to kick into action (at least on mine) but it will need to be on boost and at the boost pressure it was set up to inject at. You should see a solid red light when the ignition is on the red lights that flash are per 1000rpm so they should go up and down in knight rider mode as you rev the engine
excellent, now i know exactly what to look for, the red lights have been doiung just that, i dont think shes been on boost yet for the green light, but id rather get the eml thing sorted before i test it out properly.
Wide bands are fine I have one plumbed into my car but it is a two man job to try and tune the car unless you have some form of data logging, but even better it gives you another pretty gauge you can fit into the car ;) although to be honest on these cars where the fuelling is so critical I would get it set up on the RR and then fit a wide band and gauge so you can keep an eye on things.

another pretty gauge! got no where to put the damn things, its enevitably gonna end up in a leather trimmed gauge piller! which im not looking foward to paying for! :p
Edit forgot to add remember super unleaded only from now on preferably 99 octane so Tesco 99 or Optimax

check! her tank was empty, spd put in some optimax iirc n ive got 5 litres of v-power in the boot of the vectra (are optimax and v-power the same thing :confused:)
 
Me, arc and kris have the innovate LC-1 wideband lambda for the megasquirt, i dont know how compatible it is with the standard ecu tho, ive not used mine yet so i dont know much about them.
 
Me, arc and kris have the innovate LC-1 wideband lambda for the megasquirt, i dont know how compatible it is with the standard ecu tho, ive not used mine yet so i dont know much about them.

and me(y)
LC-1 has two outputs. both configurable with a laptop. so one could send narrow band data to the standard ecu while the other feeds a wide band gauge or what ever you like.

BUT it is best to keep the standard narrow band and fit an extra thread in the exhaust for the wide band. (narrow band are actually WAY more accurate around there area they where designed (toichiometric)so best keep it to make the car a bit more reliable)
 
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