Technical Torque needed for timing Belt change and which coolant?

[aqibi2000]

Hi - new to this forum and would like some specs

Can someone please provide the torque for all the bolts involved with a timing belt replacement on the 1.4 engine.

Bolts for the following:
- Engine mount to chassis
- Engine mount to Engine 22NM?
- Engine Mount to Engine mount
- Alternator
- Crankshaft pulley
- Camshaft Bolt
- Water Pump
- Tensioner (25NM or 28NM in some places)
- Timing belt covers
- Rocker Cover

Please provide them itemised using the above titles to make it easier to understand.

Also which Coolant can I use in the car? From ECP or the likes G12/G13?.:slayer:

Thanks!

 

[aqibi2000]

Any Takers? Or is this something no one on this forum has ever attempted before

It's a 1.4 8V, Engine Code: 350A1000

 

[Bernievarian]

Not really exciting nor challenging to collect data when it's so easy and usefull to download eLearn …


BRs, Bernie

 

[aurick86]

yep.. download eLearn.. you will find the procedure and the torques and the correct type of coolant.

 

[Bernievarian]

yep.. download eLearn.. you will find the procedure and the torques and the correct type of coolant.

and lots of other very interesting things … ;-)

 

[aqibi2000]

Excellent! Wasn't aware of this, just spotted it in the downloads section.

 

[aqibi2000]

https://ibb.co/dFcFF8 . < See Image

I've just been on eLearn and it's not very intuitive in the Timing Belt Torque values.
I need to know the torque of the Camshaft Bolt, but it states Camshaft Cap then bolt?. I've seen people state 70Nm before...

Any pointer?

Additionally what is the translation of a Phaser Transformer etc

A regular Haynes manual or something would do wonders for me if anyone has it.
Thanks

 

[Bernievarian]

eLearn is a great tool and part of its name is … Learn !
I know it's time consuming but if you're really interested in knowing how your GP works you'll have to dig in the different sections.
e.g: the 'phase transformer' is an hydraulic device that modify the angular position of the camshaft relatively to its pulley …
Regarding the camshaft bolt you're asking, I guess it's the 3rd one, with M12 size.

BRs, Bernie

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[aqibi2000]

I agree it's a handy tool but does not have all the information.

e.g. the Engine mount is in 2 pieces so there are 3 separate torque values involved. Where is this level of data kept. (This is needed for timing belt removal yet not stated).

 

[Bernievarian]

Took me less than 5 min to get there, including mounting the ISO file for eLearn…

I also noticed you were eLearning with the wrong engine selected, not really a good start !

BRs, Bernie

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[aqibi2000]

The ones into the cylinder head are 22NM

Engine Mount to Vehicle Body are 45Nm

Engine Mount to Engine Mount are 50Nm

3 separate values but thanks for your time

 

[Bernievarian]

Don't know where you've got those values, but if you're talking about the front flexible mount that is in separate parts, it has all M10 screws to attach it to the engine, to assemble the parts (rigid and flexi) and to assemble to the body. Same screws, same torque: 5.4 to 6.6 daNm …


BRs, Bernie

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[aqibi2000]

Hi as per this thread on here : https://www.fiatforum.com/punto-ii/319730-engine-mount-torque-setting.html

Someone posted slipping the aluminium at 22Nm into the cylinder head on 2 bolts. With that in mind 60 odd Nm seems very high

I used 22Nm and some threadlock. Does that seem reasonable?

I can easily retorque the other E16 and E18 bolts to 54-66Nm

 

[Bernievarian]

The thread you linked to is for Punto 2s … Probably the engine mount was different that on the GPs. 2.2 daNm is ridiculy low for a M10 bolt, plus I Believe they're even fine threads ! Just to compare, wheel bolts are torqued at 10.5 daNm !! The progression being ± exponential, it's not too bad to double the value at each metric strep; M8: 2.2 daNm, M10: 5.0 daNm, M12: 10 daNm … It's very empiric and I know some Guys will open wide eyes but that gives you a good approximation to know or guess if a given torque is way out of what it should be. Of course it (the torque) dépends of the material used for the screws and the parts being bolted, the pitch of the thread etc.

What was the thread size for fixing the rigid part to the head on your car ??

BRs, Bernie

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