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[Gman88667733]

Also getting 4 new tyres as the previous owner had been using some lethal budget ones.
Seems a limited choice for this tyre size, so am going for a set of 4 Dunlop Street Response 2's which should be infinitely better than the no-name brand ones on there now.

With the tyres, I'll have now spent more on parts for the Panda than I did on the whole car 6 months ago! Worth it though.

 

[DaveMcT]

I have General tyres on the 100HP 15" wheels. Good price and good handling. The 1.2 with 13" wheels are more restricted for tyres. It's almost cheaper to get some 14" steels and have a better range to choose from.

 

[Gman88667733]

I have General tyres on the 100HP 15" wheels. Good price and good handling. The 1.2 with 13" wheels are more restricted for tyres. It's almost cheaper to get some 14" steels and have a better range to choose from.

The Dunlop's have good reviews, so I'm going to give them a go. £200 for the set is the cheapest full set I've ever purchased!

If all else fails, I'll splash out on some 14 inch steel wheels and have another look.

 

[irc]

Had Dunlop SR2s on 13s and 14s.
Good tyres.
Only point worth mentioning is that they look a bit under inflated at the normal pressures. Still seem to wear normally though.

 

[Gman88667733]

Had Dunlop SR2s on 13s and 14s.
Good tyres.
Only point worth mentioning is that they look a bit under inflated at the normal pressures. Still seem to wear normally though.

Good to know, cheers for that.

Anything will be better than what is on the car currently...

 

[DaveMcT]

Magnetto come in black but a waft of primer and a coat of wheel silver looks looks good. Just be sure to use the correct tyre profile to maintain the roilling rdius

https://www.oponeo.co.uk/steel-whee...wY2tfVHJMU1BGBQEw1lN4SOlXPCD6Tnf7Ly2o+yDw0Ic=

 

[Gman88667733]

Magnetto come in black but a waft of primer and a coat of wheel silver looks looks good. Just be sure to use the correct tyre profile to maintain the roilling rdius

https://www.oponeo.co.uk/steel-whee...wY2tfVHJMU1BGBQEw1lN4SOlXPCD6Tnf7Ly2o+yDw0Ic=

Wow, they are much cheaper than I thought!

I actually like the look of the black steel wheels against the awful yellow of the Panda!

 

[Gman88667733]

Magnetto come in black but a waft of primer and a coat of wheel silver looks looks good. Just be sure to use the correct tyre profile to maintain the roilling rdius

https://www.oponeo.co.uk/steel-whee...wY2tfVHJMU1BGBQEw1lN4SOlXPCD6Tnf7Ly2o+yDw0Ic=

With those, how do I find the exact tyre size that I'll need?

 

[DaveMcT]

Google will find you a tyre size comparison tool. You can enter your own tyre and wheel size then you can choose a different wheel and it will tell you what tyre you'll need.

If (say) you went to 14", don't go much wider than standard but do use the same offset ET. On the 100HP I had the info cast inside the wheel. That wont be there on steels so you'll need to check.

ET measure how far the mounting face is from the wheel centreline. So it should be the same on 6" rims as it is on 4" rims

https://www.willtheyfit.com/ is quite handy as is Oponeo but surf around for others.

Also think about the centre trim. Alloy caps fit over the hub but the wheel fits over the cap. So lets say the hub centre is 50mm you might need 52mm wheels to accept 1mm thick centre caps. I went for wheels that fitted then used a top hat shape cover that's retained by the disc retaining studs and dome nuts. I'm not sure if it was worth the hassle but they look good.

This might be helpful
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/478907-centre-cap-trims-steel-wheels-2.html

If you go that way, get some M8 x 50mm alltthread GRUB screws and thin nuts. I got some ordinary socket head bolts and had to run a die down.

 

[portland_bill]

With those, how do I find the exact tyre size that I'll need?

The Oponeo site has some very useful charts: https://www.oponeo.co.uk/advice-and-tips

Hopefully all you need.

Some manufacturers suggest different pressures than Fiat. Several are higher pressures, and I've found the higher pressures to make the car more comfortable, quieter, and more precise on corners.
https://www.dunlop.eu/en_gb/consumer/tires/results.html?w=155&h=80&r=13&l=79&s=T&type=vehicle
Click the 'Your tyre specifications' for the recommended pressures.

 

[Gman88667733]

Problem!!! The Allen bolt holding the slider pin in has stripped. It looks like it was pretty well stripped before and tapping the Allen key in and tapping with a hammer just made it slowly spin.
What can I do?

 

[jackwhoo]

Problem!!! The Allen bolt holding the slider pin in has stripped. It looks like it was pretty well stripped before and tapping the Allen key in and tapping with a hammer just made it slowly spin.
What can I do?

Tap it out from the other end if other end is exposed.
If not glue Allen key into head and wiggle it out after epoxy glue sets.

If thread in pad carrier frame is stripped you need a new/used pad carrier frame.
If just Allen bolt thread stripped you need new Allen bolt.

 

[A3jeroen]

Or tap in a slightly oversized torxbit.

gr J

 

[jackwhoo]

Ignor my previous post it doesn't apply to your brake set up.

Are you attempting to remove the pin that is part of the caliper?

Is it the hex part that has rounded out?

 

[jackwhoo]

Ok you can get you discs and pads changed today.

There is a long pin holding bottom edge of caliper to pad frame.

Remove the very small spring clip from long pin. Tap out long pin. Rotate complete caliper up on it's slide pin. You can now remove pads.
If you need to remove pad frame/caliper carrier to change discs you can do this with caliper still attached by slide pin.

Let us know how you get on?
Please post pic of your caliper so I can see if I'm talking about correct type.
Thanks

 

[jackwhoo]

https://youtu.be/beVJ20u7Xhw
I know it's a punto but panda calipers the same on some models.

Shows lower pin removal.

Loads of other bad practice in video not to be copied, just pay attention to lower pin removal and rotating caliper up and checking caliper slides on slide pin.

For everyone else
What does he do wrong? Several things to spot here.

 

[jackwhoo]

https://youtu.be/PXuqUdopGp8

Better version including disc change.

Ps don't over tighten disc retaining screws a little bit more than finger tight is enough.

 

[Gman88667733]

Ok you can get you discs and pads changed today.

There is a long pin holding bottom edge of caliper to pad frame.

Remove the very small spring clip from long pin. Tap out long pin. Rotate complete caliper up on it's slide pin. You can now remove pads.
If you need to remove pad frame/caliper carrier to change discs you can do this with caliper still attached by slide pin.

Let us know how you get on?
Please post pic of your caliper so I can see if I'm talking about correct type.
Thanks

I did exactly this before I saw your message.

Discs and pads all on now.
Going to order a new set of slider pins, I got the one I tried to move, moving a little so it isn't fully stripped. Got it moving back and forth enough to be somewhat smooth, so hopefully I can get a new set in asap. The boot around the end of the Allen bolt got torn slightly, and a drop of grease seeped out, so getting the new sliders in ASAP.

There was a tiny bit of squeal as the car came to a stop on the test drive. This happened a few times but seemed to wear off after a few minutes. Haven't taken it for a proper drive though.

I copper greased the bits where the pads sit in the carrier and also wire brushed it so clean it beforehand. They went in nice and smoothly, so hopefully no issues there.

Just have to wait for the slider pins to arrive now!

 

[Gman88667733]

https://youtu.be/PXuqUdopGp8

Better version including disc change.

Ps don't over tighten disc retaining screws a little bit more than finger tight is enough.

I just nipped them tight by hand, then a tiny bit with the socket and left them at that.

 

[jackwhoo]

I just nipped them tight by hand, then a tiny bit with the socket and left them at that.

Great job ,

Now remember , brake gently for first 200 miles , there will be some smell initially with new parts.