General Servicing (again)

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General Servicing (again)

As I understand it from reading the handbook, with the 1.2, services every 18k or every 12 months. If you do less miles (e.g. 9,000 a year) you can get the cheaper low mileage service at approximately £150.

My car is 6 months old so will need doing at the end of February 2012 which will be 12 months, even though I'll have only done about 8,000 miles...
 
Maxi that is not true. I had a claim but never had a service.

Yes, but the battery isn't a serviceable item ;) You won't lose all your warranty if you don't get it serviced as per the schedule, just the bits relating to items affected by the items which should be serviced :)
 
Personally, I don't understand why anyone would leave their car to be serviced for two years or more anyway. It is a fact, a car cannot look after itself. I know times are tough for everyone, especially when it comes to vehicles and lots of people groan when they have to spend money looking after them, but what's the point of just hoping for the best that it will survive the manufacturers so called 'recommended service' intervals?

For me, having just spent a bit of money on an almost new motor, I'm going to make sure I look after it, spend the money when it's needed and hopefully, if I ever have to make a claim, I won't have some back office joker trying to wriggle out of paying a claim because the car hasn't been serviced properly.
12 month service intervals will always be part of my car's upkeep programme (sooner if I exceed the handbook mileage - though extremely unlikely).
 
Personally, I don't understand why anyone would leave their car to be serviced for two years or more anyway. It is a fact, a car cannot look after itself. I know times are tough for everyone, especially when it comes to vehicles and lots of people groan when they have to spend money looking after them, but what's the point of just hoping for the best that it will survive the manufacturers so called 'recommended service' intervals?

For me, having just spent a bit of money on an almost new motor, I'm going to make sure I look after it, spend the money when it's needed and hopefully, if I ever have to make a claim, I won't have some back office joker trying to wriggle out of paying a claim because the car hasn't been serviced properly.
12 month service intervals will always be part of my car's upkeep programme (sooner if I exceed the handbook mileage - though extremely unlikely).
I always laugh when people say they can't afford the cost of servicing. A large amount of money of people on here seem to have money to waste considering they're buying on PCP which is effectively long term car rental unless you pay the balloon payment. Might as well rent your house, fridge, TV and furniture! Anyone who can afford to buy a new car on HP can't plead poverty either.
 
Personally, I don't understand why anyone would leave their car to be serviced for two years or more anyway. It is a fact, a car cannot look after itself. I know times are tough for everyone, especially when it comes to vehicles and lots of people groan when they have to spend money looking after them, but what's the point of just hoping for the best that it will survive the manufacturers so called 'recommended service' intervals?

For me, having just spent a bit of money on an almost new motor, I'm going to make sure I look after it, spend the money when it's needed and hopefully, if I ever have to make a claim, I won't have some back office joker trying to wriggle out of paying a claim because the car hasn't been serviced properly.
12 month service intervals will always be part of my car's upkeep programme (sooner if I exceed the handbook mileage - though extremely unlikely).


My £30,000 155mph Audi did not need servicing until 2 years,The computer on the car pops up and tells you when it needs doing depending on how the car was driven.
I think if they can get a performance car to go for 2 year without a service a crappy little 1.2 should last as long. Oils these days are far better than they used to be.
 
Yup Maxi, with you on that one. I believe I am fortunate that I don't have to buy my motors on HP, so servicing is just a routine thing for me and I don't complain when it comes.
 
My £30,000 155mph Audi did not need servicing until 2 years,The computer on the car pops up and tells you when it needs doing depending on how the car was driven.
I think if they can get a performance car to go for 2 year without a service a crappy little 1.2 should last as long. Oils these days are far better than they used to be.


Well Audi's typically spend more of their time munching miles with nice warm oil flowing through their veins. Smaller cars tend to spend a lot of time around town doing short stop start journeys which are not as good for them.

You're probably right about the oil in the 500 being fine for 2 years, but it never hurts to service a car more than the manufacturer specifies, it's bound to keep the car running better for longer :)
 
I always laugh when people say they can't afford the cost of servicing. A large amount of money of people on here seem to have money to waste considering they're buying on PCP which is effectively long term car rental unless you pay the balloon payment. Might as well rent your house, fridge, TV and furniture! Anyone who can afford to buy a new car on HP can't plead poverty either.

I don't see anyone complaining that they need their car serviced in this post, or anyone complaining about the cost of servicing.
My car is not going to Fiat because I don't trust them. If the company does not even know on a car they made and sold me what service and when it needs it then I do it then they are not going anywhere near my car.
 
For RUI, I own a Cadillac I paid a huge amount of money for, but I still wouldn't allow it to run for two years without a service and mine too has a nifty service indicator! I couldn't give a monkey's that the manufacturer states it can go for 18,000 miles or two years without a service, I still wouldn't leave it that long. Again, it's about choices, choices, choices..........
 
Rui dont worry about it 2 years is fine but when you do it every 2 years you might as well do everything such as filters brakes oil etc.

My service guy told me that I should change the oil every 6000 miles! I laughed at him and said no every 18k and I'll check and top it up every 2000. He told me well its not my problem then if your engine dies on you!
 
I have a very good friend who works for a national breakdown company. He told me he changes the oil in both of his cars every (coincidentally) 6,000 miles without fail. I suppose attending vehicle breakdowns every working day, he doesn't know what he's talking about?
 
I have a very good friend who works for a national breakdown company. He told me he changes the oil in both of his cars every (coincidentally) 6,000 miles without fail. I suppose attending vehicle breakdowns every working day, he doesn't know what he's talking about?

But 99.9% of all the breakdowns his or any breakdown company go to will have nothing to do with oil or internal damage done to an engine due to a lack of oil changes.
 
I don't see anyone complaining that they need their car serviced in this post, or anyone complaining about the cost of servicing.
My car is not going to Fiat because I don't trust them. If the company does not even know on a car they made and sold me what service and when it needs it then I do it then they are not going anywhere near my car.

It does happen in threads though :)

I agree with you about Fiat being a bit crap with regards to knowing their product. That's why I went out and bought my own bits and had it serviced to a higher standard than what Fiat were going to service it for, and also significantly cheaper.
 
But 99.9% of all the breakdowns his or any breakdown company go to will have nothing to do with oil or internal damage done to an engine due to a lack of oil changes.
Yeah. Unless an engine has run completely dry, it's almost unheard of to have a breakdown for something internal other than cambelts and other non-oil related stuff.
 
Top Ten Breakdown Causes
The most common problems dealt with by AA patrols


These are the most common problems dealt with by AA patrols. Many can be fixed at the roadside, but most can be avoided with the correct preventative care.

Flat or faulty battery
Most common problems are caused by terminals and clamp connections or by a loss of voltage, often caused by constant use on short journeys without regular recharging.
At every service, check that terminals have been cleaned and protected from corrosion with a layer of petroleum jelly or grease. Clamps and connections must be secure.
If you seldom make a long journey, a fortnightly overnight charge prolongs battery life.
Modern maintenance-free batteries need no top-up.
Read about battery problems in winter »



Lost keys
Many modern cars have a 'transponder' key to prevent theft.
If you lose the key, recovery to an authorised dealer is usually the only answer.
Even a dealer may take several days to obtain a replacement, so always carry a spare set of keys.


Flat/damaged tyres and wheels
Know the correct pressures for different speeds and loads, and adjust accordingly.
Kerb impact can damage sidewalls and, possibly wheel rims. Both can result in slow leaks. Consult a specialist tyre dealer if any damage is visible.
When checking tread depth, look for uneven tyre wear – the wheels may be misaligned.
Look at the spare tyre. A worn or flat spare won't be of use in an emergency.
Check that the jack and wheel-removal tools are in good condition and that the key or removal tool for locking wheel nuts is accessible.


Alternator faults
Persistent battery problems and dim headlights when the engine is idling can indicate alternator/generator faults.
Belts driving the alternator may also operate the radiator fan and water pump. A red ignition warning light plus a rapid rise in engine temperature could indicate a broken belt. Stop immediately.


Starter motor
Though usually robust, starter motors can fail.
Good, regular garage maintenance should highlight potential faults.


Distributor cap
Moisture and dirt are the chief enemies of this vital ignition-system component.
A crack in the cap's insulation may be almost invisible but can be sufficient to allow high ignition voltage to leak away, especially in damp weather, so there may be no ignition spark.
Replace the cap at the car manufacturer's recommended intervals.
If the weather protection covering the cap splits, replace it.


Fuel problems
Empty fuel tanks cost AA patrols a lot of time and members unnecessary inconvenience.
Fill up at the start of your journey.
Every year more than 100,000 motorists put the wrong fuel in their car – petrol in diesel engines or vice versa. In these cases the car will have to be recovered to a garage and draining the tank and disposing of contaminated fuel is expensive.


Clutch cables
The clutch cable is under high stress. Abrasion can weaken the wire strands until they break.
Temporary repairs can often be made at the roadside, but replacement at the first signs of wear is the best answer.


Spark plugs
The spark plug is a much-neglected part of the ignition system.
Make sure that you replace plugs at the manufacturer's recommended service intervals.


HT leads
High-tension (HT) leads and their connections can deteriorate with age. Water and dirt enter cracks in the insulation, reducing the ignition voltage.
Damp-repellent sprays are only a temporary solution.
Ask your garage to check the condition of the leads and replace as necessary.



http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/breakdown_advice/top_ten_causes.html
 
RUI, of course you are perfectly entitled to your opinion and believe me, I'm not knocking it, but when I passed a car pulled into a lay by on the A43 5 miles from the M1 last Tuesday afternoon, it was billowing out huge plumes of blue smoke out of its rear end which kind of made me think about oil, bearings etc etc.....just a thought.
 
RUI, of course you are perfectly entitled to your opinion and believe me, I'm not knocking it, but when I passed a car pulled into a lay by on the A43 5 miles from the M1 last Tuesday afternoon, it was billowing out huge plumes of blue smoke out of its rear end which kind of made me think about oil, bearings etc etc.....just a thought.

Whilst I agree with you that overservicing is good, I would imagine that the vast majority of people like that probably rev the crap out of their cars from cold and never change the oil or top it up.
 
Yeah, my problem is, I'm utterly boring! I just don't kick the crap out of my own cars full stop, never have. What's the point? If I want to drive fast, I'll book a track day and race in someone else s car, not wreck my own!
 
Personal opinion here.
Manufacturers ... most of them... like you to think their vehicles can cover extended mileages between services. That is a major selling point, particularly for Leasing / Rental companies, as they can see these vehicles as having essentially no servicing during their ownership.
Yes lubricants are now very very good compared with even 10 years ago, however the bottom line is, as always, who picks up the reapair tab once the Warranty has expired? Now this wont matter if you only keep a car for the period it has a Warranty, but in these potentially Double Dip recession days we may all be keeping them a bit longer, except maybe for Company car drivers who probably dont care anyway...

Annual servicing is good for the car & the wallet, some may be lucky but others wont be...

In the words of Clint Eastwood in (was it) Dirty Harry...?

Do you feel lucky punk?

It's up to the owners of course, I just hope I never inadvertently buy such a car TBH...
 
After owning an Alfa I check the oil far too much, even though I have only had to top it up twice in 2 years. I guess I dont drive it hard enough.
 
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