im now debating on changing from the 95bhp diesel to the new twinair
but im in 2 minds :bang:
but im in 2 minds :bang:
General Multijet Round-Trip MPGs
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General Multijet Round-Trip MPGs
Seems to me that you have too much money, feel free to give it to me if you're bored with it
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For reasons I don't really understand, this ended up being a best tank with 72.7mpg "at the pump" (74.5mpg per the computer).
Since Mr Kitchning can get 65mpg from his 1.2, I wondered how this impacts the economics of the oil burner. I think it was £1,200 more to buy, but might be worth say £400 more at tradein, so in comparison to the 1.2 it looks to me that it would need to be run well over 100,000 miles just to break-even in fuel terms. Plus there would be no worries about DPFs and turbos.
Also the TA's on fuelly are doing considerably worse..., so it looks to me that possibly still the 1.2 is the most economic engine choice, for those not driving daily in Central London anyway.
Since Mr Kitchning can get 65mpg from his 1.2, I wondered how this impacts the economics of the oil burner. I think it was £1,200 more to buy, but might be worth say £400 more at tradein, so in comparison to the 1.2 it looks to me that it would need to be run well over 100,000 miles just to break-even in fuel terms. Plus there would be no worries about DPFs and turbos.
Also the TA's on fuelly are doing considerably worse..., so it looks to me that possibly still the 1.2 is the most economic engine choice, for those not driving daily in Central London anyway.
Thanks, but that was a one-off & it's not that good overall. Fuelly also gives you an average mpg over the last 10 tankfuls, but unfortunately it's only shown on your private page & AFAIK isn't publicly viewable. Just now it tells me my 1.2 is averaging 59.8mpg so I'm trying extra hard to find the last 0.2 to make it a true 60mpg petrol car
.I reckon you're right about the economics of the diesel on paper but the real difference is an oil burner can average in the low 60's & still show a respectable turn of speed on the motorway; with a petrol engine, it's one or the other, but not both. I think a diesel makes a lot of sense for the high mileage driver, even if the figures don't really show a breakeven in pure cost terms.
But after all that's been posted on this forum, anyone buying a twinAir for economy needs therapy.
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The conclusion I can to when I looked at the different models in the 500 range was if you wanted to power of an A500 but couldn't afford the fuel bills the Multijet II was a great choice providing you were doing enough motorway mileage to keep the PDF problem at 'arm's length'. If you averaged 50mpg - this is way better than 32mpg typically in a A500 with the same driving style. To get 50mpg in a TA you would have to 'think about' the way you are driving.
I would be very interested to see what JR could get in a TA given his success with nearing 60mpg in a 1.2. I reckon it would be tough on the passenger(s) in his car. They would need to leave in plenty of time.
I would be very interested to see what JR could get in a TA given his success with nearing 60mpg in a 1.2. I reckon it would be tough on the passenger(s) in his car. They would need to leave in plenty of time.
I would be very interested to see what JR could get in a TA given his success with nearing 60mpg in a 1.2. I reckon it would be tough on the passenger(s) in his car. They would need to leave in plenty of time.
If I were really trying I'd have chucked the passengers out to keep the weight down, so they'd just catch the bus & get there well ahead of me
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Yeah! those Adobe documents are really scary up close.
Sorry Michael, just couldn't resist.
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My best ever figure according to the readout was 93.4 mpg. This was on a 58 mile journey. Starting from my drive and then on the M1/M25 doing about 58m mph following a lorry.
Car is a 1.3 mjd 70 bhp but it has been mapped. The best before the map was 83.2 mpg.
Car is a 1.3 mjd 70 bhp but it has been mapped. The best before the map was 83.2 mpg.
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was that a round trip?
I know I drive a petrol car but I thought I'd post it in here anyway
Must admit I was bricking it on the dual carriageway driving home but I ended up with about a litre of fuel left so 10 miles of fuel left so it was all good
Actual MPG was 55.8. 60 mpg would be easily doable with skinny pop tyres!
Must admit I was bricking it on the dual carriageway driving home but I ended up with about a litre of fuel left so 10 miles of fuel left so it was all good
Actual MPG was 55.8. 60 mpg would be easily doable with skinny pop tyres!
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I have to say, that's very impressive! What engine do you have? Any idea how many litres left when the last "blob" vanished from the fuel guage?
1.2 Petrol.
I reckon that when the last segment disappears you've got 2, maybe 2 and a half litres left. I think I did a little over 10 miles today after the last segment went out and I was still 1.6 litres under the fuel up I did when the car ran out of fuel. If you're doing 50mpg that woks out to be 27 miles....... personally I'll be happy from now on to just fill up within 10 miles of it going out.
I have to say a really silly side of me is considering putting my winter tyres on for just one tank to see what it could do in warm weather on skinny tyres
I am VERY jealous of the figures jrkitching is getting out of his car. If just over one tank I could get 60mpg I'd be happy. I got 56 last year so i reckon if I chuck the winters on a couple of weeks early it might be doable.
I am VERY jealous of the figures jrkitching is getting out of his car. If just over one tank I could get 60mpg I'd be happy. I got 56 last year so i reckon if I chuck the winters on a couple of weeks early it might be doable.
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The maths isn't working out... how many litres are you getting in?
One thing to also mention. I got the trip computer up from 57mpg to 57.9 in just under 40 miles which means that i was doing about 65mpg...... but then again I never went over 60 and was keeping to about 50 most of the time so not really the way you want to be driving. If you wanted to drive like that and you had skinny tyres you could be doing 65-70mpg but it would be a ridiculous way to drive!
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At that reckoning I've been filling up on warning, but in reality with nearly 200 miles range remaining! Isn't there some trick with the diesel if you run out (priming) to do with the indicator stalk..., perhaps I should invest in a can of diesel and test the theory
At that reckoning I've been filling up on warning, but in reality with nearly 200 miles range remaining! Isn't there some trick with the diesel if you run out (priming) to do with the indicator stalk..., perhaps I should invest in a can of diesel and test the theory
Most modern diesels will self prime, thought I could be wrong. Tbh I would just go by the range that the car gives. The range in my car goes blank shortly after showing 30 miles so it's safe just to go by that
Isn't there some trick with the diesel if you run out (priming) to do with the indicator stalk..., perhaps I should invest in a can of diesel and test the theory
I think the indicator exercise is to re-initialise the fuel pump after an accident/bump and the fuel cut off has been triggered.
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This is the thing - I've run mine 30 miles past the range going to '---' and still only managed 31 litres in the thing, that is to fuel sitting right up ths spout.
