Technical Make Your Own Ignition Timing Tool Fiat 5030/1
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Technical Make Your Own Ignition Timing Tool Fiat 5030/1
IanEmery
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Michael, I’d like to put my name on the list for one if you do get some made up, please.
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I have rivesed the drawing according to the dimensions more accurately measured from my spare engine.
The material is aluminum alloy and I chose 3mm-thick plate and tubes with 11mm inner diameter. For some people steel or iron may be easyer to handle, but I found even plywood worked fine while I was trying to make a wooden mockup in order to see how the stuff would fit into the designated position.
The material is aluminum alloy and I chose 3mm-thick plate and tubes with 11mm inner diameter. For some people steel or iron may be easyer to handle, but I found even plywood worked fine while I was trying to make a wooden mockup in order to see how the stuff would fit into the designated position.
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Well done---please put me down for one if you do make a batch--thank you.
I found this one at internet a few months ago and made my own tool. Mine is a bit more simple but works.
https://okamoo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Timing-Adjusting-Plate.pdf
Regards Jocke
https://okamoo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Timing-Adjusting-Plate.pdf
Regards Jocke
Would it not be easier to simply make a couple of notches in the rim of the crankshaft pulley to align with the fixed mark on the timing cover and show the 10 and 28 degree timing positions.
Other Fiats use a notch on the crank pulley, without any adverse effects, this could be done with a hacksaw, small file or a narrow cutting disc. Alternatively you could use a drill bit to make a couple of dimple marks.
Such marks could be touched in with white paint/Tippex to highlight them when using a stroboscopic timing light.
I've expounded my views (at length ) in the past on slavishly adhering to these 10 and 28 degree timing figures. I believe there are a good starting point but are not the-be-all-and-end-all. Modern fuels are different to what fuels were like when Fiat decided on 10 and 28 degrees, so perhaps a litle trial and error is appropriate nowadays if pursuing optimum running of the engine. (with the proviso that going too-far advanced is not a good idea....)
AL.
Other Fiats use a notch on the crank pulley, without any adverse effects, this could be done with a hacksaw, small file or a narrow cutting disc. Alternatively you could use a drill bit to make a couple of dimple marks.
Such marks could be touched in with white paint/Tippex to highlight them when using a stroboscopic timing light.
I've expounded my views (at length
) in the past on slavishly adhering to these 10 and 28 degree timing figures. I believe there are a good starting point but are not the-be-all-and-end-all. Modern fuels are different to what fuels were like when Fiat decided on 10 and 28 degrees, so perhaps a litle trial and error is appropriate nowadays if pursuing optimum running of the engine. (with the proviso that going too-far advanced is not a good idea....)AL.
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Eventually got round to printing a timing tool. I have used Michaels model but split it into 3 pieces as it makes the numbers clearer on my printer.
Printed in ABS it has no issues with the heat from the engine- after 10 minutes it hadn’t turned into a molten mess!
Now just need to check my timing!
I have a spare I can send out if anyone wants it and can post the model files here.
Printed in ABS it has no issues with the heat from the engine- after 10 minutes it hadn’t turned into a molten mess!
Now just need to check my timing!
I have a spare I can send out if anyone wants it and can post the model files here.
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Where do you live Anthony, and how much do you want for it? Did you glue the tubes onto the scale?
I’m in Bedfordshire, MK45 but can post it out to you.
Don’t want anything for it as it exists and I only need one- feel free to make a donation to the forum if you want as it is through here that it exists.
The best way if sticking ABS together is with acetone (nail polish remover is ok) rather than superglue as it melts the ABS.
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Don’t want anything for it as it exists and I only need one- feel free to make a donation to the forum if you want as it is through here that it exists.
The best way if sticking ABS together is with acetone (nail polish remover is ok) rather than superglue as it melts the ABS.
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Thank you Anthony; I will contact you direct with my address details--I live just outside Chester (but 200yds INSIDE Wales---wife's bright idea!)
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Morning Anthony;
Did you get my e-mail with my home address on it? If you didn't, contact me direct at:--- tommontagu@yahoo.co.uk. Thank you for your generous offer.
Did you get my e-mail with my home address on it? If you didn't, contact me direct at:--- tommontagu@yahoo.co.uk. Thank you for your generous offer.
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Evening Anthony;
I seem to have mis-heard you when we spoke on the phone. I will e-mail you direct through the Forum and try you again directly, but if that fails, can you please contact me directly at:-- tommontagu@yahoo.co.uk Thank you
I seem to have mis-heard you when we spoke on the phone. I will e-mail you direct through the Forum and try you again directly, but if that fails, can you please contact me directly at:-- tommontagu@yahoo.co.uk Thank you
Sorry I'm a few months late on this ?*
Did anyone make part AP. 5030/1 ?
If they did can I buy one please?
Did anyone make part AP. 5030/1 ?
If they did can I buy one please?
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"Antglu" made 1 for me, but if you ask him to make one for you, let him know whether you are going to be using it on a 500 (110) engine or a 126 engine. The 126 engine need longer mounting tubes due to the extra depth of the timing-chain cover.
Hello
I have the 3D print files available for the timing tool.
It consists of the timing plate and 2 different length options of mounting tubes for either 500 or 650 engines (extended as per Hobbler's recommendation)
Have printed in ABS and they cope with the engine heat.
I haven't got round to uploading them onto here, but if anyone wants them just let me know.
I have the 3D print files available for the timing tool.
It consists of the timing plate and 2 different length options of mounting tubes for either 500 or 650 engines (extended as per Hobbler's recommendation)
Have printed in ABS and they cope with the engine heat.
I haven't got round to uploading them onto here, but if anyone wants them just let me know.
I'd like to get a copy of that file. I don't have a printer but I know someone who does. Maybe you can post it on the forum.
