General is it possible to get 5 stud alloys to fit 4 stud hubs?

[Vimto Rolf]

as title really and if it is possible is it actually safe?

 

[venomco]

It's impossible, the holes would never align, if it were possible they wouldn't bother making 4 stud alloys.

 

[Vimto Rolf]

It's impossible, the holes would never align, if it were possible they wouldn't bother making 4 stud alloys.

i guessed that would be the case but wondered wether there was an adaptor or something.

 

[Venters]

http://www.venommotorsport.com/pcd-adaptors.php

 

[sledge]

In theory it could be done but it would involve redesigning and manufacturing the 2 front hubs, the 2 rear hubs and the 2 rear brake drums to incorporate 5 fixings instead of the four and then fitting them to the car......... It wouldnt be cheap and the insurance company wouldnt be happy.

 

[Vimto Rolf]

http://www.venommotorsport.com/pcd-adaptors.php

thats explained it rather well thanks

In theory it could be done but it would involve redesigning and manufacturing the 2 front hubs, the 2 rear hubs and the 2 rear brake drums to incorporate 5 fixings instead of the four and then fitting them to the car......... It wouldnt be cheap and the insurance company wouldnt be happy.

so basically although it is possible it is a time consuming and costly thing to do and isnt safe which is why they would be hard to insure.

 

[Venters]

thats explained it rather well thanks
.

What do you mean that explains it. They sell them.
Will act a 20mm spacers aswell

 

[venomco]

http://www.venommotorsport.com/pcd-adaptors.php

I stand corrected :worship: - I need to replace my alloys... hmmm lambo wheels anyone?

 

[sledge]

If its done properly there is no reason why it shouldnt be as safe as the original design but I would imagine because of the safety implications any insurance company would want proof and would ask for an independent Engineers report confirming the work has been done to an acceptable standard.

 

[venomco]

awh, that company only coverts 5 stud to wider 5 stud, not 4 to 5

 

[Vimto Rolf]

What do you mean that explains it. They sell them.
Will act a 20mm spacers aswell

i know they sell them i meant it explains how they work as well.

If its done properly there is no reason why it shouldnt be as safe as the original design but I would imagine because of the safety implications any insurance company would want proof and would ask for an independent Engineers report confirming the work has been done to an acceptable standard.

presumably like with an engine transplant it would have to be signed etc as well.


i think ill play it safe and stick with 4 studs

 

[Vimto Rolf]

awh, that company only coverts 5 stud to wider 5 stud, not 4 to 5

no they do 5 to 4 if you read it they are custom made.

oh and sledge and venom co if you want take a look here:which wheels

your opinions are much appreciated.

 

[venomco]

It gives a choice of cars to fit them to at the base, all of which use 5 stud wheels, and the reason for those particular spacers is to fit larger 5 stud wheels (such a Porsche) to smaller PCD 5 Studs.

http://www.ultratuning.com/en/product-21391-pcd-adapter-from-4x100-571-to-5x100-571.html

The above company, and those particular adapters may work for us though

 

[Vimto Rolf]

It gives a choice of cars to fit them to at the base, all of which use 5 stud wheels, and the reason for those particular spacers is to fit larger 5 stud wheels (such a Porsche) to smaller PCD 5 Studs.

http://www.ultratuning.com/en/product-21391-pcd-adapter-from-4x100-571-to-5x100-571.html

The above company, and those particular adapters may work for us though

aye but £153.04 +delivery and the cost of wheels as well is a bit rich

 

[punto_matt]

It is possible with the use of hub adapters. Most places will do 4x100 into 5x112 as dub boys and a few vauxhall boys use them when they put porsche/ bentley wheels etc on there car. There isnt really anything unsafe about them you will just wear out bearings etc a bit quicker and tbh i dont see why an insurance company would want an engineers report on them. You would just tell them you have got spacers and aftermarket alloys on.

 

[Venters]

vw ones are 4x100 dunno about center bore

 

[sledge]

I wasnt talking about fitting adapters etc, I was talking about modified hubs manufactured to the same size as the originals.

 

[punto_matt]

Ah my bad

 

[Vimto Rolf]

I wasnt talking about fitting adapters etc, I was talking about modified hubs manufactured to the same size as the originals.

aye i understand that was just curious if there were any other methods.

 

[sledge]

no they do 5 to 4 if you read it they are custom made.

oh and sledge and venom co if you want take a look here:which wheels

your opinions are much appreciated.

I have no interest in alloy wheels Carl , you are talking to the wrong man. There is nothing wrong with the alloy wheels that came with both my cars as far as I am concerned. I can think of 101 other things to do with that amount of cash that would give me far more pleasure and improve my quality of life. Paying off the motgage, upping my pension fund, home improvements, holidays, running costs of my bike, season tickets and other hobbies/interests, nights out and socialising with friends etc.......... Buy them now before you have more important things to do with your money.