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General HELP !!!

Lincolnshire Gent said:
Back from the garage , He said it sounds like the diesel pump and that the pump should draw the fuel from the tank .
They are recovering the van next Tuesday / Wednesday.
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Hi,
please do check with ignition on there is power to stop solenoid which is on injection pump .
If you find it does have power , switch off. Run a wire from battery positive touch the wire to the stop solenoid terminal - it should click(it is faint click) if it doesn't click then stop solenoid stuck or faulty.
With ignition off resistance check between stop solenoid terminal and ground - it should not be open circuit. A guess would under 20ohms.

Best wishes
Jack
 
jackwhoo said:
Hi,
please do check with ignition on there is power to stop solenoid which is on injection pump .
If you find it does have power , switch off. Run a wire from battery positive touch the wire to the stop solenoid terminal - it should click(it is faint click) if it doesn't click then stop solenoid stuck or faulty.
With ignition off resistance check between stop solenoid terminal and ground - it should not be open circuit. A guess would under 20ohms.

Best wishes
Jack
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OK Jack . If I can summon up the enthusiasm, I am a beaten man now :(
 
I am trying to "think outside the box". Is there any possibility that the vehicle has an inertia switch fitted? On my 2006 2,8jtd, the inertia switch is connected into the fuel lift pump negative.
I thought that perhaps inertia switches were introduced to the Ducato in 2000, when the jtd engines were introduced
I have however found reference to an inertia switch being fitted to a 1999 2.8 TDi, which I interpret as a 2.8idTD which would have mechanical injection.
I see no reason why an inertia switch could not be fitted to a 1.9TD, and used to interrupt the supply to the stop solenoid either directly, or via a relay, which was the case in the reference that I have found.
 
Communicator said:
I am trying to "think outside the box". Is there any possibility that the vehicle has an inertia switch fitted? On my 2006 2,8jtd, the inertia switch is connected into the fuel lift pump negative.
I thought that perhaps inertia switches were introduced to the Ducato in 2000, when the jtd engines were introduced
I have however found reference to an inertia switch being fitted to a 1999 2.8 TDi, which I interpret as a 2.8idTD which would have mechanical injection.
I see no reason why an inertia switch could not be fitted to a 1.9TD, and used to interrupt the supply to the stop solenoid either directly, or via a relay, which was the case in the reference that I have found.
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I would be tempted to try a pipe direct from a five litre can to injector pump , just to prove the system.
As @jackwhoo and @Communicator mention, the fuel solenoid is worth checking, if it is the Peugeot 1.9 engine years ago I had a customer with that engine in a Peugeot 305 and that solenoid valve stopped the engine, though I did do a temporary repair in 30 minutes so he was back on the road.:)
 
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Bit of a update , The van was taken to a local garage to hopefully be sorted out.
I printed of a copy of the sellers ebay advert and also a A4 page of what I had done / tried ( And failed :( )
Just like to thanks anyone who tried to help it is much appreciated (y):)
I have asked for the van to come back with a MOT as well so hopefully I can then prep the inside for trips away , Make sure everything works.
I will update with progress , Once again thanks for your help.
 
Not sounding good from the garage, He phoned me today and said after checking what sounded like most of what I had done, They moved on to testing the compressions , He said they range from nothing to not much, Also said the glow plug tip was smashed on cylinder 4 . Now the head has got to come off . So much for the seller saying it's an easy job , Sounds like it is going to cost lots. :mad:
 
Lincolnshire Gent said:
Not sounding good from the garage, He phoned me today and said after checking what sounded like most of what I had done, They moved on to testing the compressions , He said they range from nothing to not much, Also said the glow plug tip was smashed on cylinder 4 . Now the head has got to come off . So much for the seller saying it's an easy job , Sounds like it is going to cost lots. :mad:
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Bad news, any redress from seller?
 
The engine is scrap , Pre combustion port fell out of the head casting this snapped the glow plug caused damage to the head piston and block.
Not able to find a second hand engine , One place on ebay say they can do a recon at £2850.00 exchange so I may have to pay a surcharge on the old unit , They also want £160 delivery and I suppose the same again collecting the old unit ,
To say I am annoyed is a under statement , so much for the " Should be a easy fix " as stated in the advert , :mad:
 
Lincolnshire Gent said:
The engine is scrap , Pre combustion port fell out of the head casting this snapped the glow plug caused damage to the head piston and block.
Not able to find a second hand engine , One place on ebay say they can do a recon at £2850.00 exchange so I may have to pay a surcharge on the old unit , They also want £160 delivery and I suppose the same again collecting the old unit ,
To say I am annoyed is a under statement , so much for the " Should be a easy fix " as stated in the advert , :mad:
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I suspect that you are gutted, with head in hands. Obviously fitting an identical replacement engine would be the simplest solution. However if not available, and funds permit it may be possible to fit a different engine + gearbox such as a 2.8idTD. With this approach you should check the effect on vehicle weight, and payload.
However you may not want to start such a project.
 
Communicator said:
I suspect that you are gutted, with head in hands. Obviously fitting an identical replacement engine would be the simplest solution. However if not available, and funds permit it may be possible to fit a different engine + gearbox such as a 2.8idTD. With this approach you should check the effect on vehicle weight, and payload.
However you may not want to start such a project.
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I agree, it is sad when people get ripped off by unscrupulous sellers, but getting more common.:mad:
Personally I feel it may be time to get shot of it and put what is left of your money on a decent cruise/holiday and chalk it up to experience, otherwise you are just prolonging the agony.
A few years ago those engines were readily available second hand along with competent engineers who could repair them at sensible prices and parts were still available at dealers.
These days few garages have the staff able to do the job, it is all about a quick profit and sling it out of the door!
 
Communicator said:
I suspect that you are gutted, with head in hands. Obviously fitting an identical replacement engine would be the simplest solution. However if not available, and funds permit it may be possible to fit a different engine + gearbox such as a 2.8idTD. With this approach you should check the effect on vehicle weight, and payload.
However you may not want to start such a project.
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I am now in the hands of the very busy garage who have big local council contracts and have to service these every 6 weeks
I am a fit in job whet they have time available , Not sure they will get involved in conversion work , I can get a reconditioned engine from ebay I am trying to justify the asking price of £2850.00 , does a crank grind / Bearings / rebore and pistons / full gasket set / 8 valves / water pump / oil pump plus some labour really cost that much ? . Maybe I am living in the past .
 
All may not be lost , I entered the van details on several breakers web sites and have just had a response , Assuming it is not a scam , They phoned me just now and said they had one out of a MOT failure terminal chassis rust , They drove it into the yard on trade plates from the sellers home so have assured me it does start and run as it should , I have asked for images of the engine to be sent so I can make sure it is the same as my old unit.
Best bit if it is a match £500 + £50 delivery , Watch this space :)
 
Lincolnshire Gent said:
I am now in the hands of the very busy garage who have big local council contracts and have to service these every 6 weeks
I am a fit in job whet they have time available , Not sure they will get involved in conversion work , I can get a reconditioned engine from ebay I am trying to justify the asking price of £2850.00 , does a crank grind / Bearings / rebore and pistons / full gasket set / 8 valves / water pump / oil pump plus some labour really cost that much ? . Maybe I am living in the past .
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Depending on the amount of damage, from what you describe I would have said at worst a rebore . set of pistons, a conrod where the damage may have bent it, repair or replacement of cylinder head, bearings and gaskets.
Trouble is these days with labour around £100 an hour or more in some cases, the costs soon mount up.
Parts wise in the past with similar damage to what you describe on a Sofim 2.8 I have honed the bores , fitted new rings and bearings, the conrod if piston heights proved damage, cleaned up the head and piston if viable or new or s/h piston, s/h head if beyond repair, new cam belt kit and gaskets and away for many thousands of more miles.:)
Trouble is these days there are few old school engine shops around.
Fingers crossed on your latest post, though given the scammers around I would be tempted to drive up and collect it myself to make sure I was getting what I paid for.
Note they will have to load it as very heavy!!!
Another point is if as you say "pre combustion port" is damaged I am assuming it is an older early indirect injection 2.5 engine, so satisfy your self it will fit.
 
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Lincolnshire Gent said:
It is a 1.9 TD engine or was
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So if you have the engine series number to confirm, I am guessing it is a derivative of the Peugeot XUD engine at 1905cc.
If so it was used in a lot of different Peugeots of that era.
If you have the Series number. I could probably tell you which vehicles used it , if any still around.:)
 
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