General Flashing Oil light - how to reset

[alexGS]

Handwriting the date and mileage on the sticker in the engine bay worked on my 1965 Austin 1100.

Meanwhile we just need someone reading this thread who actually owns a diesel 500... so far we have Doblo, Mito, Multipla, and Doblo again... who’d have thought this was a forum for the FIAT 500? I reckon someone with an Alfa Romeo 159 diesel will try it next and report here

-Alex

 

[Eklipze3k]

Maybe the OP is the only person who owns a diesel one :chin:

 

[g8rpi]

Meanwhile we just need someone reading this thread who actually owns a diesel 500... so far we have Doblo, Mito, Multipla, and Doblo again... who’d have thought this was a forum for the FIAT 500? I reckon someone with an Alfa Romeo 159 diesel will try it next and report here

-Alex

So how are you helping?

The problem is shaggy1970 responded to a 5 year old thread with a method of resetting the SERVCE indicator on some Fiats (they have a Doblo) when the original question was about a flashing oil warning (oil degradtion) on 500. This new reply is misleading and does not address the original issue which was due to the oil degradation counter not being reset. You don't have to own a diesel 500 to know how Fiats DPF service reset works.
Using the "pedal pushing" service reset will CAUSE the original problem if used on a DPF equipped Multijet Fiat of any model. (someone will come up with an exception I'm sure).


Robert G8RPI.

 

[chris3234]

Meanwhile we just need someone reading this thread who actually owns a diesel 500... so far we have Doblo, Mito, Multipla, and Doblo again... who’d have thought this was a forum for the FIAT 500? I reckon someone with an Alfa Romeo 159 diesel will try it next and report here

-Alex

I'll have to give it a try when mines due it's service and oil change allthrough that won't be till late on it the year

 

[Eklipze3k]

Alright Robert, calm down, you've made your point.

 

[jrkitching]

Alright Robert, calm down, you've made your point.

Given Chris1234's post, I'm not so sure that point has been heard.

There's a serious issue here; attempting to service anything using a set of instructions designed for something else is appalling engineering practice and could very easily not end well. Add in a touch of hearsay and chinese whispers (my mate with a xxxxx tried this and it worked) and the chances of a bad ending just get greater.

My Panda & 500 have much in common mechanically (the same core engine and made less than six months apart), but electronically they are quite different and I'm careful to refer to the specific version of eLearn for each vehicle if doing anything I'm not absolutely certain about.

Whilst shaggy1970's post may have been made with the best of intentions, there are specific reset procedures which must be followed when servicing a diesel 500 and failure to do so may lead to serious and costly damage; there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that following this set of instructions will do what's necessary.

I'd caution anyone reading this thread not to attempt to improvise by following a set of heresay instructions which may or may not have worked on some other vehicle.

Like Robert, I'm concerned that someone following the procedure described in that post could inadvertantly cause further problems. I, too, feel strongly about this, to the point that I've added a cautionary note to the relevant post.

 

[chris3234]

I've read it fine
I have multiecuscan scan so I can try the procedure and see if it resets the oil change counter after I'm guessing it didn't however

 

[lazybones51]

Reset oil light after service... that is very important. And don't skip the oil change either.

1-turn on the ignition key,
2-press the gas pedal and hold it,
3-press the brake pedal 7 times without relesing the gas pedal,
4-keep pressing the gas pedal for 60sec.
5-Release the gas pedal and turn of the ignition key,
6- Wait for 60sec.
Then turn on the ignition key and start the engine. Check if the service/oil change light turned off.
That's all! The vehicle is Fiat Doblo, works on Linea, Qubo/fiorino also vauxhall combo.

2012 forward...

Moderators's note: When changing the oil on a diesel 500, there is a specific software reset procedure (for the oil degradation counter) which must be performed correctly or serious damage could result. This is in addition to resetting the service light. At the time of writing, there is no evidence that following the procedure in this post will properly reset the oil degradation counter. Use it at your own risk.

I've just tried this on my 2010 Multipla 1.9JTD that's had a flashing oil light on startup, I can confirm it works, the light no longer flashes. Thanks Shaggy! Note: I service the car myself, not at a dealers/garage so having the ability to reset the light is handy.

 

[g8rpi]

I've just tried this on my 2010 Multipla 1.9JTD that's had a flashing oil light on startup, I can confirm it works, the light no longer flashes. Thanks Shaggy! Note: I service the car myself, not at a dealers/garage so having the ability to reset the light is handy.

Does your Multipla have a DPF? If so you need to reset the oil degradation counter as well.
If doing your own servicing Multiecuscan is a good investment.


Robert G8RPI.

 

[lazybones51]

Does your Multipla have a DPF? If so you need to reset the oil degradation counter as well.
If doing your own servicing Multiecuscan is a good investment.


Robert G8RPI.

Yes it has a DPF. On the Multipla you can reset the service reminder from within the dashboard computer, this however doesn't stop the oil light from flashing which I believe is related to the oil degradation counter?

 

[g8rpi]

Yes it has a DPF. On the Multipla you can reset the service reminder from within the dashboard computer, this however doesn't stop the oil light from flashing which I believe is related to the oil degradation counter?

That is how I understand it. No one has yet tried the "pedal pumping" trick with a before and after check of oil degradation status with MES or similar so we don't know for sure it it works properly.


Robert G8RPI

 

[lazybones51]

As luck would have it the cable I use to interface with my Triumph motorcycle is the same one for connecting with a Multipla.

I downloaded MultiEcuSacn and can confirm the oil regeneration was reset, so the pedal pumping which turned the light off does work. See below screenshot.

 

[Claire311085]

Meanwhile we just need someone reading this thread who actually owns a diesel 500... so far we have Doblo, Mito, Multipla, and Doblo again... who’d have thought this was a forum for the FIAT 500? I reckon someone with an Alfa Romeo 159 diesel will try it next and report here

-Alex

I have a Fiat 500 diesel 1.3 Multijet and although I had the car serviced and engine oil and filter changed I had the flashing oil light appear and the message in the dash said change engine oil. I took it to my usual mechanic as it was serviced where I purchased the car and he confirmed the oil had been changed as had the filter but I couldn’t get the pesky light to disappear! Just tried the instructions in this thread and it worked. The light has disappeared. So thank you very much!

 

[g8rpi]

Welcome to Fiat Forum. As you hve found Multijet diesels with a DPF have an additional reset that normally fiat specific software that your mechanic did not have. It appears there is another reset method that appears to work.


Robert G8RPI

 

[turbozed]

Need to be careful here. The original (old) post was about a flashing OIL light, not a service light. This indication relates only to diesels fitted with a DPF. These cars require TWO resets at a service / oil change. One resets the service indicator (the pedal pumping may work I don't know) but this does not matter, it's just a reminder and is controlled by the body ECU. The second is the oil degradation counter in the engine ECU. There is no light to tell you to reset this but if it is not done (even Fiat garages have been known to miss it) eventually the flashing oil light will come on and the DPF will stop being regenerated. If this is ignored you eventually get limp mode and a blocked DPF. Only Fiat specific software can reset the degradation counter. It' related to fuel getting into the oil during DPF regeneration.
shaggy1970's post is a little misleading as it says "that's all" without mentioning diesels or DPFs.



Robert G8RPI.

I drove a peugeot bipper with a fiat 1.3 multijet diesel engine for 6 months with the oil light flashing, and it kept on doing regens and never went into limp mode. I reset it with autocom in the end and serviced the car again after that.
On a side note I tried this pedal pressing malarkey on my 2014 doblo 1.6 multijet which is whinging about my service coupon has expired, but it didn't work. I've ordered a set of leads and downloaded MultiEcuScan anyway as I recon it will be helpful for various things in the future.

 

[turbozed]

Interesting update. Although my oil light wasn't flashing I tried this procedure again and when I restarted the car, the oil light flashed 3 times and went out. I think this might have indicated that the counter has been reset. (don't worry, I am servicing the car this week). However the pesky service coupon expired message is still being announced, and it still says 0 miles left on the service section of the display.

 

[harrymylo]

I own a 500L 1.3 diesel and I also went to National to get an oil change but they couldn't reset the light. I followed shaggy1970's instructions and when I turned the ignition on the light flashed a few times and then went off. I don't know if the oil degradation status is reset so I'm going to a Fiat specialist garage on Tuesday to find out. I called the local Fiat dealership in Poole and they were asking for £99+VAT to run diagnostics I will post an update after my visit on Tuesday

 

[varesecrazy]

I own a 500L 1.3 diesel and I also went to National to get an oil change but they couldn't reset the light. I followed shaggy1970's instructions and when I turned the ignition on the light flashed a few times and then went off. I don't know if the oil degradation status is reset so I'm going to a Fiat specialist garage on Tuesday to find out. I called the local Fiat dealership in Poole and they were asking for £99+VAT to run diagnostics I will post an update after my visit on Tuesday

My understanding is that you need to plug.in to correct the degradation index
And the service coupon message.

My mj isnt DPF.. so its not something I have needed to cover.

 

[jrkitching]

I own a 500L 1.3 diesel and I also went to National to get an oil change but they couldn't reset the light. I followed shaggy1970's instructions and when I turned the ignition on the light flashed a few times and then went off. I don't know if the oil degradation status is reset so I'm going to a Fiat specialist garage on Tuesday to find out. I called the local Fiat dealership in Poole and they were asking for £99+VAT to run diagnostics I will post an update after my visit on Tuesday

Resetting the oil degradation status is a necessary part of the job of carrying out an oil change on a DPF-equipped car and failing to do so could lead to some expensive problems later. If I had taken such a vehicle for an oil & filter change and this was not done, I'd refuse to pay.

 

[chris3234]

Doing a service in mine today or tomorrow depending on when the parts arrive
I'll try resetting the counter this way and then check it on multiecuscan after