Technical Exhaust fitting kit

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Technical Exhaust fitting kit

gadb

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Greetings,
Buying a cheapo middle exhaust section off eBay (~£100) for my 1.4 but I suspect I need other bits. Couldn't see any posts on exhaust fitting kits - perhaps this is such a rudimentary thing that nobody else asks, but believe it or I am that green.
So far, I think I need a gasket to join the front to middle and some assembly paste to join the middle to back. I suspect I might also need some nuts & bolts (front join) given the appearance of the ones there at the moment - incidentally, what size are those bolts, anyone know?
Anything else I missed?
Thanks in advance!
 
Model
1.4 16v 100hp
Year
2008
Mileage
66500
Thanks both. I was mainly referring to the aluminium (crush?) gasket that sits between the bolt together front and middle sections. In the end I couldn't get the middle and rear sections to part company under the car, so I cut the exhaust pipe just before the join to get the middle section out. I then tried removing the remaining middle section of pipe still inside the tail section but failed to get it out. I took the tail section off and a bunch of rusty bits dropped out of the end pipe. I then set to work separating the remaining bit middle section from the end section on my bench, but _still_ failed to get anywhere. This was after cutting with the grinder, twisting with mole grips, heating with a butane torch until glowing red, hammering a screwdriver between the two pieces until the tip of the screw driver bent. It's as if the two sections had been welded together, although there was no sign of this. Could it have been joined by heating the two sections to near melting and then hammering together? Are maybe the unit was sold as a single section (although I've not seen such things on sale anywhere I've looked)? There was no evidence of any assembly paste or similar anywhere near the join. No idea how it was done but it's made the job a real PITA.
Removing the end section made me realise (from all the bits dropping out) that the end section needed replacing so I have that on order now. It's turned a £100 job into a £200 job. I suppose this is often the way.
I find the issues I've had with this exhaust strange. The pipes and outside of the mufflers look fairly new with relatively little corrosion. But the problems seems to have all come from the flexijoint (which failed after about 12 months and <4000 miles) and the welds between the pipes and the middle box. Perhaps the short journeys we tend to do (with not enough time to heat everything up enough so the moisture boils away) haven't helped.

I was curious to know what the innards of the two sections were like, so I opened both up to have a look and have included the pics here for anyone else who might be interested. Middle box looks pretty ok inside - rusty but otherwise intact. It was packed with a woolly material (removed before photo) that I assumed was fibreglass of some sort. End box is another story - severely corroded and the perforated wall between the inlet and outlet has almost completely gone.

Also included the sawn off distorted inserted pipe that refused to budge in the slightest after much puffing and panting. A tortured thing it is indeed.
 

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Many garages will only replace the back and middle of an exhaust for this reason. If they try to replace just the middle they mangle the back so may as well get both parts new.

My exhaust has had a leak at the gasket for months. I replaced it and put on some paste this morning. I'm not hopeful, but we'll see.
 
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