Technical Error code P0657-16 , Will not start

[Lot46310]

Yes the OEM relay is MOPAR 1/11308/85, coloured red.
My local parts shop did not have one, the nearest " match" being a 22 amp rated one with no resistor.
I have ordered one online and it is due later this week.
Amazon is my go to supplier here, as they are the only trustworthy no quibble , quick supplier.
Yes they have the OE relay, in a minimum quantity of 6 for 60 euros!

I wait patiently; my nearest Fiat distributor is an hours drive north of me, with toll cost of 15 euros.

Fortunately, I have no trips planned in the Ducato , just crossing my fingers that it is the cause of the error.

On testing , it would not click to make the circuit . On the multimeter ,without a 12V connection it has continuity across
the load pins 30 and 87 , which is wrong I believe?

 

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Yes the OEM relay is MOPAR 1/11308/85, coloured red.
My local parts shop did not have one, the nearest " match" being a 22 amp rated one with no resistor.
I have ordered one online and it is due later this week.
Amazon is my go to supplier here, as they are the only trustworthy no quibble , quick supplier.
Yes they have the OE relay, in a minimum quantity of 6 for 60 euros!

I wait patiently; my nearest Fiat distributor is an hours drive north of me, with toll cost of 15 euros.

Fortunately, I have no trips planned in the Ducato , just crossing my fingers that it is the cause of the error.

On testing , it would not click to make the circuit . On the multimeter ,without a 12V connection it has continuity across
the load pins 30 and 87 , which is wrong I believe?

With the relay removed from the vehicle there should be an open circuit across the NO (normally open) contact which is connected to terminals 30 and 87. The coil is connected to terminals 85, and 86. You should be able to measure something under 120 ohms in either direction across these terminals.

It would seem that your relay has either suffered from a mechanical failure (rare), or alternatively the contacts are welded together (worrying).

 

[Lot46310]

So, I fitted the new T09 relay, but no joy. Engine turns over, but will not start. I cleared the fault codes, but of course it is back again. I have the diagnosis sheet kindly provided by the green van per and will check the wiring, if I can find the various junction units and ECM.