Strange. Im running 3 "bangers" and your costs for 1 are more than im paying. 
Off Topic Bye bye 500!
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Strange. Im running 3 "bangers" and your costs for 1 are more than im paying.
Strangely enough the same is true for us. We own a notoriously expensive to run Subaru and it doesn't cost us that much to fix it...... Funny that!
I should also add 2 of the 3 have stopped depreciating completely. They are worth the same or infact more than when originally bought by myself.
Strange. Im running 3 "bangers" and your costs for 1 are more than im paying.
How much does your banger cost to service including repairs and getting through an mot?
In my experience running 100k plus diesels the running costs add up
Until you get a bill for brakes, or an exhaust, or a radiator...
Dude. All 3 of those have been replaced on the car and probably cost about £600 in total......
Well id have to check my docs. but one mot sevice and repair came to 200 ish and the other mot and service was 60 it had no fail or advisaries, from memory.
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Slightly unfair comparison - a cool 500 1.4 verus a workhouse estate (but a lot better that a 323i !)
2 year old Fiat 500 1.4 Paid cash €9,800
Depreciation €1500 (Last '08 Sport lost roughly this on depreciation)
Tax €300
Insurance €350
Fuel €1267 (7K 37mpg €6.70gal)
Servicing €300 (Fiat service €250 + €50 for extra bits)
No NCT required until June 2013
TOTAL €3,717
Marea 1.6 10 year old Paid cash €1,500 in 2005
Depreciation €300 ('written off' over 5 years)
Tax €445
Insurance €540 (Over 8 years - loaded)
Fuel €1675 (7K 28mpg €6.70gal) [done for comparison purposes]
NCT (MOT) €70 (Re-test always needed)
Servicing €150 ('Back street' garage)
Overheating 'Problem' €150
Tyres apportioned cost €100
TOTAL €3430
Running an 'average' old car versus a new 'smaller' car for me has been has been marginally cheaper.
But I'm happy to pay for the reliability & safety of a newer car.
2 year old Fiat 500 1.4 Paid cash €9,800
Depreciation €1500 (Last '08 Sport lost roughly this on depreciation)
Tax €300
Insurance €350
Fuel €1267 (7K 37mpg €6.70gal)
Servicing €300 (Fiat service €250 + €50 for extra bits)
No NCT required until June 2013
TOTAL €3,717
Marea 1.6 10 year old Paid cash €1,500 in 2005
Depreciation €300 ('written off' over 5 years)
Tax €445
Insurance €540 (Over 8 years - loaded)
Fuel €1675 (7K 28mpg €6.70gal) [done for comparison purposes]
NCT (MOT) €70 (Re-test always needed)
Servicing €150 ('Back street' garage)
Overheating 'Problem' €150
Tyres apportioned cost €100
TOTAL €3430
Running an 'average' old car versus a new 'smaller' car for me has been has been marginally cheaper.
But I'm happy to pay for the reliability & safety of a newer car.
Glad someone understood the point I was making
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alfatastic
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Not a air comparison really but for last 3 years
Fiat 500
cost new £8500
sold last month £5250
tax for 3 years £100
servicing for 3 years About £500 including MOT
insurance About for 3 years £600
break down cover for 2 years £180
repare bills for suspension and 2nd breather pipe and new pads disks and tyres about £1000
Alfa GT Junior
worth 3 years ago about £6000
now worth about £8500
tax for 3 years £0
servicing and MOTs for 3 years £450
Insurance (including breakdown cover) for 3 years £380
repair bills due to brake fire £600
miles covered 500 - 18,000 GT - <3000
enjoyment factor for 500 7/10
enjoyment for GT 15/10
Baring accidents which one will definately be on the road (in nice weather at least) in 10 years time?
Fiat 500
cost new £8500
sold last month £5250
tax for 3 years £100
servicing for 3 years About £500 including MOT
insurance About for 3 years £600
break down cover for 2 years £180
repare bills for suspension and 2nd breather pipe and new pads disks and tyres about £1000
Alfa GT Junior
worth 3 years ago about £6000
now worth about £8500
tax for 3 years £0
servicing and MOTs for 3 years £450
Insurance (including breakdown cover) for 3 years £380
repair bills due to brake fire £600
miles covered 500 - 18,000 GT - <3000
enjoyment factor for 500 7/10
enjoyment for GT 15/10
Baring accidents which one will definately be on the road (in nice weather at least) in 10 years time?
Probably the one that doesn't have brake firesNot a air comparison really but for last 3 years
Fiat 500
cost new £8500
sold last month £5250
tax for 3 years £100
servicing for 3 years About £500 including MOT
insurance About for 3 years £600
break down cover for 2 years £180
repare bills for suspension and 2nd breather pipe and new pads disks and tyres about £1000
Alfa GT Junior
worth 3 years ago about £6000
now worth about £8500
tax for 3 years £0
servicing and MOTs for 3 years £450
Insurance (including breakdown cover) for 3 years £380
repair bills due to brake fire £600
miles covered 500 - 18,000 GT - <3000
enjoyment factor for 500 7/10
enjoyment for GT 15/10
Baring accidents which one will definately be on the road (in nice weather at least) in 10 years time?
alfatastic
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the fire was caused by me driving at 70mph with one of the brake servos malfunctioning and keeping the rear brakes fully on (just felt a little sluggish compared to normal, not bad for a 40 year old engine) they finally caught fire. That servo has now been by passed, and rest of braking system replaced. The 500 will be on its 3rd set of suspension in 10 years or more if next user does more than 6000 a year, a potential £500 plus cost every 2 or 3 years:yuck:
I had a sticky handbrake on my 504. I suspect I got close to brake fire territory
The wheel was way too hot to touch and I had to wait till had cooled down before I could do anything.I'm going to replace all the suspension parts with quality non-genuine parts so i think for about a grand (including dampers) I'll have suspension which will more or less last the life of the car.
alfatastic
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has some one else started manufacturing better wishbones and top mounts then? (top mounts are a water trap on 500 compared to panda, my were completely rusty) as water runs down screen and straight onto them, pandas drain away before they get to them.
) as water runs down screen and straight onto them, pandas drain away before they get to them.
has some one else started manufacturing better wishbones and top mounts then? (top mounts are a water trap on 500 compared to panda, my were completely rusty
Whilst it's a rust trap I don't really see it as being a problem. As for wishbones, yes there are some QH ones available. There is a better variety available for the Panda so I'm sure in a couple of years there'll be an even better variety for the 500. QH is a decent brand and they make ones for the 500.
alfatastic
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A rusted out ball race is never a good thing surely, means the steering feels like a juddery mess a spring twists against spring pan
Does the water actually get down into the ball race though?
alfatastic
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did on both mine, the balls and race where red and couldn't be turned by hand
Interesting. I think the Panda and 500 ones are the same. If they are there are better ones available for the Panda which would fit.
alfatastic
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my neighbour has a panda and the drainage route is different and to our eyes (2 former engineers) the pandas appeared much better as it routes water away from top strut
