General Abarth -v- Sport; Initial Thoughts

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General Abarth -v- Sport; Initial Thoughts

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After having owned a 1.2 Sport for four years, then trading it in for an Abarth this year I thought it might be interesting to compare the two cars.

The Cars

i) A 58 plate 1.2 Sport in orange with leather, passenger seat memory and side bump strips.

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ii) A 62 plate Abarth in red with leather, rear privacy glass and white stripes and mirrors.

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The Styling

I like the 500 in all the various variants which have been released, but there are a few distinct looks (IMO). The Pop/Lounge/Colour Therapy all look nice and retro, the Sport/Street have a slightly more sporty look, the 500C is really classy and the Abarth looks like it's hit the steroids.

With regards to my two, I really like them both. I think the Abarth wins by a whisker though. The extended front, the styling kit and the twin pipes really finish it off nicely.

I guess this one is down to personal taste though.

The Interiors

Sport:

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Abarth:

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Both cars came with optional leather. At first glance there is little difference, other than the seats and the boost dial on the Abarth. But there are a few small things that make the cars' interiors feel worlds apart.

The Sport's seats are actually firmer, which I really like, and settling into it was always like being welcomed home. The Abarth's thicker steering wheel, leather gear knob and handbrake covers combined with the dark roof lining make the it feel like a larger car. The larger metal pedals do make things a little cramped for your feet though.

Both are very nice places to be, and these two models have the best dash fonts of the various range options.

Equipment

My Sport: (over Pop) Fog lights, 15inch alloys, aircon, Blue and Me, heated mirrors, leather interior, rear head rests, split rear seats, chrome tailpipe, kick plates and privacy glass.

My Abarth: (over Sport): Sports seats, 16 inch alloys, parking sensors, boot light, automatically dimming mirror, leather dash cover, hill hold, stability control, TTC, rear discs and boost dial/shift indicator. No kick plates though.

The Abarth is better equipped.

Driving

The Sport is easier around town. It is easier to drive smoothly, and has a great steering lock which makes u-turns a piece of cake. The 1.2 is a fun engine, characterful and eager. The car handles just how a small town car should, and it grips well. The sport was always comfortable too, and it happily completed 400+ mile trips in a day when I was using it for work.

The Abarth is faster, obviously. In sport mode, much, much faster. The steering is lighter in non-sport mode than the Sport's is without the girly button pressed (when it gets very light). In sport mode it is heavier. It has less lock on the steering, but this gives it nice precise steering at speed. It corners flatly, and rides better than the Sport. It sounds awesome!

Both cars a great fun, and actually the 500 is a car which doesn't need huge power to be enjoyed. The Abarth makes me laugh out loud though. Its sport/non-sport modes give it a real split personality.

Costs

The Sport cost me £10.5k, and I got the Abarth down to £15.1K. Tax on the Sport was £30 per year, the Abarth is £170.

I shopped around, and I managed to insure the Abarth for £40 less than the Sport cost me last year, and servicing costs at a main dealer appear similar.

The Abarth seems to have the potential to be within 10mpg of the Sport, but in reality I doubt it will be.

The Sport retained about 57% of its value over four years when I part exchanged it.

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Both are very good cars. There might more sensible, cost efficient options out there, or better performing cars, but the 500 is fun. It's a feel good car. There was really very little on the radar when I looked to change, and the only car which came close to sitting on my drive was a Mito.

Ultimately, I do prefer the Abarth. But, I wouldn't have been unhappy if I had kept the Sport either.

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The Sport was more of a trim level than anything else. TBH, the engine suits the car well. It is quite fun and characterful with a nice rasp to it.

It does encourage you to enjoy the car, and it is quite well matched to the handling and braking etc. It doesn't feel as slow as the numbers would suggest.
 
The sport was a trim level, full stop.

Yes (ish). You are right that it was a trim option, as there were no mechanical changes (although Fiat did claim at one point on their website that it came with "sports suspension", which clearly it didn't). But, the effect was a little more than just some extra bits. The different seats (stock, not leather), steering wheel, instrument graphics, spoiler, fog lights, wheels and darker rear 3/4 windows all worked together to give the car a more sporty feel. It changed the character of the car a little in my opinion, which made a real distinction between the identically priced Lounge and Sport.

I think it was quick a clever move. Two versions of the same car, for the same price, but each with its own character. So yes, technically a trim level, but it amounted to a bit more than the difference between (for example) a Ghia and a Titanium level Focus.
 
Would agree that the Sport model feels a lot more sporting that the Lounge model and that may come down to the seats and possibly the black ambiance as opposed to the white ambiance and the higher Lounge seats.

On the U.S. F500 the Sport model has a slightly lower suspension (5mm?) than the Lounge or Pop model but there is only one engine variant i.e. the 1.4 16V MA.

No, it was an 8V. TTC is a kind off electronic limited slip diff setting you can turn on, partially overriding the stability control..

I had the ESP standard on the ex 1.4 and if you turned off the ASR it was quicker off the line (in the dry). ASR was designed to limit wheel spin.

TTC uses the brakes to reduce the wheel spin as opposed to relying on the ESP to 'kill' the power. With TTC turned on (OFF is the default setting) it has the effect of not allowing ESP to 'kick in'. I get the impression that with TTC on a A500 will be quicker. Unsure as to what would be best for track use.

The Abarth seems to have the potential to be within 10mpg of the Sport, but in reality I doubt it will be.
When I had the Continental Premium Contact 2s (16s) they seemed to lose around 2 mpg compared with a set of 'crap' Neros on a different 1.4 (a Sport model). On the newer '5' they claim to have less rolling resistance. Time should improve mpg when the engine loosens up but for those who have compromised the warranty have found gains in mpg when they fitted either an Induction kit and / or a Tuning box. Since the oil fitted to the standard A500 is the thicker 10w50 (same as the A500SS / 595) as opposed to the 5w40 that might result on the loss of another 1-2mpg. I've also found that the Denso plugs give a slight improvement over the NGKs. Alignment is also a problem with some of the A500s (as it is with the 155TB) (even from the factory) and inside wear on the fronts is the first sign of a problem - this also results in a loss of mpg.
I would expect that with mixed driving you should be able to get into the mid 30s.
 
TTC uses the brakes to reduce the wheel spin as opposed to relying on the ESP to 'kill' the power. With TTC turned on (OFF is the default setting) it has the effect of not allowing ESP to 'kick in'. I get the impression that with TTC on a A500 will be quicker. Unsure as to what would be best for track use.

My Bravo doens't have TTC, but ESP will kill power of both wheels are spinning, or brake a wheel if only one (IE half on mud verge and half on road) so I suspect that isn't what TTC does surly.
 
My Bravo doesn't have TTC, but ESP will kill power of both wheels are spinning, or brake a wheel if only one (IE half on mud verge and half on road) so I suspect that isn't what TTC does surly.

TTC use the brakes. On the track it can eat the pads. Wasn't aware of ESP using the brakes - I was of the belief that power was 'turned down' when the wheels start to spin. On the A500 there is a transfer of power to the non spinning wheel hence the term Torque Transfer Control. I don't know how it works on the Bravo. Suspect that it may have ASR which is a more primitive form of traction control which stops wheels spinning (with the brakes) if you're accelerating. Do you have a button for turning ASR off ?

On the MiTo you have Dynamic, Normal and All weather mode. The All weather is hyper active ESP and Dynamic is the TTC mode of the A500. Normal is just ESP but it's not 'trigger happy'.
 
TTC use the brakes. On the track it can eat the pads. Wasn't aware of ESP using the brakes - I was of the belief that power was 'turned down' when the wheels start to spin. On the A500 there is a transfer of power to the non spinning wheel hence the term Torque Transfer Control. I don't know how it works on the Bravo. Suspect that it may have ASR which is a more primitive form of traction control which stops wheels spinning (with the brakes) if you're accelerating. Do you have a button for turning ASR off ?

On the MiTo you have Dynamic, Normal and All weather mode. The All weather is hyper active ESP and Dynamic is the TTC mode of the A500. Normal is just ESP but it's not 'trigger happy'.
yes i can confirm the asr on teh fiat 500 uses the brakes under loss of control situations. under power the esp cuts power but if you take a corner too fast it brakes some wheels! You can turn off ESP on the Fiat 500 (ASR), but the stability control cannot be turned off. ASR for power, stability for braking if you know what i mean.
 
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yes i can confirm the asr on teh fiat 500 uses the brakes under loss of control situations. under power the esp cuts power but if you take a corner too fast it brakes some wheels! You can turn off ESP on the Fiat 500 (ASR), but the stability control cannot be turned off. ASR for power, stability for braking if you know what i mean.

I'm assuming that you mean that you can turn off the ASR but not the ESP.
 
nice little write up, interior touches i liked on the A500 were, the instrument cowel covering, the fake leather to the handbrake and chrome button (standard one always feels cheap) and i liked the gear knob
 
TTC use the brakes. On the track it can eat the pads. Wasn't aware of ESP using the brakes - I was of the belief that power was 'turned down' when the wheels start to spin. On the A500 there is a transfer of power to the non spinning wheel hence the term Torque Transfer Control. I don't know how it works on the Bravo. Suspect that it may have ASR which is a more primitive form of traction control which stops wheels spinning (with the brakes) if you're accelerating. Do you have a button for turning ASR off ?

On the MiTo you have Dynamic, Normal and All weather mode. The All weather is hyper active ESP and Dynamic is the TTC mode of the A500. Normal is just ESP but it's not 'trigger happy'.

TTC by definition is braking the wheel that appears to be spinning too quickly - the differential then performs the torque transfer.

ASR works by retarding the ignition timing which will cause a power drop, arresting the wheelspin.
 
nice little write up, interior touches i liked on the A500 were, the instrument cowel covering, the fake leather to the handbrake and chrome button (standard one always feels cheap) and i liked the gear knob

Thanks. It's not fake leather though. That's all genuine leather on the seats, steering wheel, instrument cover, handbrake, gear knob and door arm rests.
 
I strongly suspect that the covering on the door cards is leatherette, it is on standard 500's with leather seats. Quite possible that other bits are fake too.
 
TTC by definition is braking the wheel that appears to be spinning too quickly - the differential then performs the torque transfer.

ASR works by retarding the ignition timing which will cause a power drop, arresting the wheelspin.

Thanks for correcting me on ASR on the 500 - it doesn't use the brakes and a torque drop is used unlike the ESP which seems to 'kill' the power. There's a good explanation on here.

Going back on topic the addition of TTC on the A500 is a key difference between a F500 that's equipped with stability control or as loosely called ESP.
 
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