I thought Abarth enthusiasts wouldn't hear of their cars being associated with Fiats
We're not all the same
I think the A500c is a rip off, simple as that.
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General 500c Abarth? Any evidence?
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General 500c Abarth? Any evidence?
We're not all the same
I think the A500c is a rip off, simple as that.
...and a final example of fiat's gearknob butchery:
mmmmm, gorgeous!
mmmmm, gorgeous!
Top Gear have a review this month as well, and they slate the A500C gearbox too, they love the car, hate the gearbox.
Let's hope it eventually comes with the option of a manual.
Let's hope it eventually comes with the option of a manual.
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Nope. No option of a manual.....
FYI the 695 Tributo Ferrari uses the same gearbox as the A500C, but with more power (180BHP) it has different software to give quicker and smoother gear changes. Not sure why Abarth didn't use the same program on the A500C, but perhaps they will in time...
That'll probably be because they save the decent software for the essesse.
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Eh? You mean the A500C SS? No, there are no software differences to the gearbox with the upgrade as far as i'm aware.
When I think it was 5th gear tested it on telly they said you got recalibrated software...might be incorrect tho
that's what test drives are for so you can make your own judgement rather than listen to the questionable ramblings of (insert name here) mad motoring journo
Saps????? That's a bit strong
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How many people bought 500's without a testdrive though, and how many Abarth owners ordered cars before they were released?
A lot of people simply just don't care how cars drive (unless they're REALLY REALLY FRIGGING bad) which is why cars these days are so monumentally dull in terms of handling
Give it more power, make the exhaust noisier with the occasional pop from the exhaust and lower it and make it stiff and people will say woooo it's sporty!
How many people bought 500's without a testdrive though, and how many Abarth owners ordered cars before they were released?
A lot of people simply just don't care how cars drive (unless they're REALLY REALLY FRIGGING bad) which is why cars these days are so monumentally dull in terms of handling
Give it more power, make the exhaust noisier with the occasional pop from the exhaust and lower it and make it stiff and people will say woooo it's sporty!
guilty as charged
Still sportier than a 1.2 "Sport" surely!?
Bought the A500 without seeing/driving it, no regrets
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Got my monthly copy of Evo through the door today. As people have mentioned the box isn't too great and they mention that the suspension has been tuned for comfort as I predicted. 3 out of 5 stars
so is this just rebranded selespeed then? hmmmm.
i would say it beats having the van inspired dash gearstick, but if it then leaves the dash the same, but with a few buttons tacked over it and an unreliable gearbox, i'm not sure it is.
i would say it beats having the van inspired dash gearstick, but if it then leaves the dash the same, but with a few buttons tacked over it and an unreliable gearbox, i'm not sure it is.
It's a variation of Fiat's award winning Dualogic box, which although is very clever, does lack a little refinement. If only it were as good as a VW DSG box, then we'd be cooking! Wouldn't say it was unreliable though.
My mum used to have a Dualogic Panda, i found it quite fun, but it was only smooth when you drove it hard, trying to drive slowly, you would get the jerky lurching effect that you've read about. The one in the A500C changes slightly quicker than the duelogic, but evidently it's still got it's flaws. Can't Fiat nick VW's 7 speed DSG found in the Fabia VRS (and others) that would suit it perfect.
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indeed
diet Abarth if you will - for girlies
when will the bring out the full fat high sugar high caffeine version Abarth 500 TC?
Fiat has its own DSG coming either this year or next, and should be applied to all Fiats eventually. It looks like the Duaogic is just filling in for the time being, rather like the non-Multiar engine is!
