The last time I priced a new sump guard with the dealer it was £175 plus vat
Technical 4x4 sump guard
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The hooks just help you align/assemble but don’t actually support it, the bolts along the front lift it up from the hooks.
If you can weld then 18 gauge should be easy, even with a stick welder, so long as you can turn it down, below 22 becomes a challenge
if you go thicker then the forming becomes an issue, even if you have a fly press or similar. Rather than sacrificial anode, could use galvanised sheet, the zinc is the sacrificial. Plug weld it to the frame and use a zinc rich galv repair paint. Works on the farm gates. Will measure up tomorrow and decide to patch as mild steel or buy a sheet of galvanised. Nibbler would slightly wipe the edges with the zinc. If it was produced commercially in small batches, would be laser cut.
I've always questioned why those flimsy side wings are there at all? The seem to offer little in the way of protection and don't add anything in terms of support? It's as if fiat had the under trays are made before the final car was produced, at which point they found it wasn't quite wide enough...The hooks just help you align/assemble but don’t actually support it, the bolts along the front lift it up from the hooks.
If you can weld then 18 gauge should be easy, even with a stick welder, so long as you can turn it down, below 22 becomes a challenge
Rather than sacrificial anode, could use galvanised sheet, the zinc is the sacrificial. Plug weld it to the frame and use a zinc rich galv repair paint. Works on the farm gates. Will measure up tomorrow and decide to patch as mild steel or buy a sheet of galvanised. Nibbler would slightly wipe the edges with the zinc. If it was produced commercially in small batches, would be laser cut.
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Real answer: I guess the wing parts are made weak (ie deformable) as the chassis rails they fit to are part of the crumple zone, which can't really do its bit of absorbing impact if there's a stiff tray linking across the car.
This arrived today needs a bit of fettling but i like welding and fabrication only cost £50 so i wasn't expecting much
That looks to be in right condition and it’s a good price
Considering what they cost new I thought so, weld a couple plates where the rust holes are clean it up lick of paint should be good to go..
Use a good flexible weld paint/primer and top coat…I find the tractor paints are good for high build and flexibility
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I had one the same the wings were the worst part I cut them off never replaced them they weren’t needed just like what hills hopper reported
My one has a little hole starting appear on one of the wing, it came off a 2015 cross TA 4x4 they seem to be awful for corrosion, took me ages to find one that wasn't rotted right through
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I would say the tin worm is on desserts - that looks like the one I threw away
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Threw away…… crying. Long way from scrap, even if reskinned.I would say the tin worm is on desserts - that looks like the one I threw away
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Yeah, I've a similar yard broom, had it for years, new broomstick maybe 5 years ago and a couple of new brush heads either side of that - still works a treat, good as new!Threw away…… crying. Long way from scrap, even if reskinned.
Would there be a market for this item if it were made out of a material that doesn't rust? I'm thinking carbon fibre, if you really want the next best thing when it comes to strength/bang protection? How many 4X4 owners are doing serious off roading to warrant the toughest protection though??
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Carbon fibre a bit OTT and ££££, trains use polypropylene composites, for underside protection from ballast. Same material used for riot helmets. However galvanised or use of heavier gauge aluminium would suffice. Knowing what I know now, hind sight should have just stripped off when purchased the car, blasted and galvanised dipped.
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Yep, compression moulded Twintex or similar thermoplastic composite would do it.
The properties of cf wouldn't lend themselves to that application*, based on what little I know about it. Is that fair?
*One where high impact resistance/strength is required (and a bit of 'give' would be needed too)
*One where high impact resistance/strength is required (and a bit of 'give' would be needed too)
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Carbon fibre(s) are exceptionally strong in tension so design has to be smart to ensure this is the "typical" loading mode. Typically folk use cf as a generic reference to a carbon fibre composite, i.e. carbon fibres and a resin (of some sort) matrix to hold the fibres together (this is the definition of a composite - a mix of different materials). This matrix has until fairly recently been, typically, a thermoset resin (usually an epoxy for high end performance) all of which, as has been observed, makes for an expensive and difficult to recycle product.
More recently carbon fibres can be formed with a thermoplastic matrix which changes the whole manufacturing process (but, again, remains expensive).
As @WitleyPanda says a thermoplastic composite (thermoplastic matrix with higher melt point thermoplastic fibres) would be more appropriate and ticks the recycling requirement box that the automotive OEMs have to (struggle) to meet these days by being recyclable while also including a percentage of recyclate.
