Similar to Euro4x4 then who used to sell both the coupling and center bearing (bearing delivered for £64 yes, including the bearing) now, nothing, the bearing was listed uptil last year, the link is now dead and they only do standard stuff
Technical Panda 4x4 viscous coupling
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Technical Panda 4x4 viscous coupling
Fingers crossed, I may be sorted….
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Why gibbons, are they out of spider monkeys?
Auto correct being too efficient me thinks
I’ve typed ‘gubbins’ so many times it now fills it in before I’ve finished
‘Gibbon’ was easier than “Kaapori Capuchin” ;-) Damned IOS auto-correct….
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I would almost rather have the mis-spellings. The OS red underlines them instead of filling in rubbish that's easily missed.
Update - I now have 4WD again. The viscous coupling from Italy works fine - thanks very much to the poster earlier in the thread who suggested a search for ‘giunto viscoso’
the Bad news is that the already tragically-bad performance has been blunted a bit, which doesn’t bode well for a trip to Wales with twin mountain bikes on the roof….
anyone know if the cylinder head off the 16v Punto will fit?
the Bad news is that the already tragically-bad performance has been blunted a bit, which doesn’t bode well for a trip to Wales with twin mountain bikes on the roof….
anyone know if the cylinder head off the 16v Punto will fit?
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The 16 valve 100HP has a bit more midrange than the 1.2-60 but not much. The difference is that 100HP keeps making more power as you rev it. I'm not sure that's much help on a 4x4.
Will bolt on, probably
Will it work, probably not
Just on the mechanical side I can see a few problem, such as the valves will hit the pistons unless you change them for the ones with the correct pockets for the valved, I doubt the pulleys will line up and so on
The 1.2 4x4 engine isn't a standard 1.2
Just about everything is different, camshafts, throttle body, ECU. As the valve timing is different I guess it's tuned for more low down torque
Hoorah…as for power, rag the arse off it, it’s the only way to drive a Fiat…didn’t someone on here fit a turbo to a 1.2 4x4 but had nothing but pain trying to make the ecu, throttle bodies and boost sensors talk to each other?
Every day's a school day - thanks. It's definitely useful to know it's not just a Punto lump in there (I knew the ECU was different, but didn't realise some of the mechanicals were different too)
I don't mind ragging an engine when it feels like it's enjoying it, but the poor little Panda sounds awful after about 3,500rpm and feels like it's going to explode after about 4,500rpm.
The engine out of a 100hp sounds like a great idea, but it's way more hassle than I can be bothered with. I guess I'll be leaving it alone then - maybe a panel air filter to let it breathe a bit easier and I guess after 118,000 miles, a dose of injector cleaner can't do any harm (can it?)
Another really simple way to get more power to the road will be to turn the aircon off..... The compressor is a bit knackered, so every time it cuts in, it's like dabbing the brakes. Still, I think I'd rather be slow and cool than fast(er) and sweaty....
I use injector cleaner, from every couple of month, to every quarter, in all my vehicles.
I know the 1.2 isn’t built for speed, but yours sounds lethargic!?!
The diesel 4x4 has more torque, but sounds more strained if you rag that above national speed limits, still not ‘annoyingly so’.
As for clawing some extra bhp, where there’s a will there’s a way, I suppose it boils down to cost, time and effort or, just getting lucky and landing a bigger engine for nothing
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The 100HP engine is not powerful enough to be worth the trouble and bottom end torque is rubbish. The Abarth 500 turbo would be nice and that does cry out for a 4x4, but the "ordinary" 4x4 transmission won't cope with the torque.
IMO, the diesel Cross 4x4 models are the ultimate Panda but you pay for the delights. Then there's the fragile and extremely expensive front bumper and lights. A minor bump could scrap the car.
IMO, the diesel Cross 4x4 models are the ultimate Panda but you pay for the delights. Then there's the fragile and extremely expensive front bumper and lights. A minor bump could scrap the car.
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These things are a total waste of money.
The Fiat air intake is via the front grille - as cold as it can get and the pipes are more than big enough to flow all the air the engine needs.
