Technical No 4x4 available

[LostVagueness]

Hi all

I have a 2016 panda 4x4 and as stated, it's most definitely a 2x4! Or maybe I'm the plank.
Every time the 4x4 should kick in, no dice, just the happy dashboard message of "4x4 unavailable, check the handbook" which helpfully says "this means there is a fault" thanks fiat! Let me guess water is wet?!. So I have put a new solenoid on as the other was definitely dead (removed amd tested), but there is still the same issue. I'm thinking and hoping when the old solenoid failed it may have taken out a fuse or relay... but no one that I have spoken to, including fiat can tell me which fuse serves the electronics of the 4x4 system. Fiat dealers told me they do not have the info and they would have to contact the factory to find out when I book it in with them. £150 to investigate the problems seems steep, but it's where I am at the moment. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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[the green vanper]

Hello,

The fuses should be described in the owners' handbook. Check the downloads section of the forum, perhaps it's available

 

[Eltezz]

Try here, looks like it might be fuse 23 in the engine bay:

Fuse box diagram Fiat Panda 2012-2018

Fuse and relay location. Fuse box diagram. Cigarette lighter fuse. Assignment of the fuses and relay Fiat Panda 2012-2018

fusesdiagram.com

 

[The Panda Nut]

Read this and may be it will help

4x4 AWD not available / What might be the cause? | FIAT Panda (2012+)

Just ordered a second hand ABS ECU and a ripped off connector. Will solder me an interface, so that I can measure ... - ... from the ECU's mass (Pin 38 and 13) to the batterie mass and ... - ... from the ECU's alimentation (Pin 1) to the batterie plus (resp. the fuse) ... while actuating the...

www.fiatforum.com

 

[LostVagueness]

Thanks everyone for the input. So as it stands I have no checked the fuses and all in working order, I have cleaned all the electrical contacts, I have check the battery sensor and the state of the battery, all good. I ha e replaced pads on the rear of the car and che"cked ABS sensors, all good. So I'm. Ot feeling ECU issue?

I was intending to take it to my local fiat dealer, but when I contacted them, I was less than impressed at the response...

Me: "Hi my fiat 4x4 got stuck on a slight incline on wet grass and a little bit of wet mud, says no 4x4 available... any ideas?

Fiat service team: "i think you maybe were asking it to do too much, they aren't really meant to be used as 4x4s and aren't meant to go off road, it designed for wet and fristy roads and isnt meant to be going in mud and stuff, it's probably fine, we can have a look if you think its faulty, it's £150 for a diagnosis"

Me: "erm... I'm pretty sure they are definitely designed for more than wet roads etc. Check YouTube"

Fiat Service team: "oh I'm not sure then, we haven't really had many of them in. We can read the fault codes and see what it shows and go from there"...

So on top of the advice you guys have ready given, can anyone recommend an independent fiat centre or a main dealer that they can trust or has more 4x4 experience than Knutsford.

Thanks in advance.

 

[varesecrazy]

Heathroadgarage Sandbach,

Worth a call, as they have good knowledge of Italian cars