Technical Is this noise just the airbox rattling [VIDEO]?

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Technical Is this noise just the airbox rattling [VIDEO]?

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Again, new to this car.

What do you guys make of this?
 
Model
500
Year
2014
Mileage
123000

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Well its loose on the left side where you moved it so fix down correctly and see?

Thank you.

Thing is - they are both (these rubber bushings?) totally broken or worn, so they don't even fill the gap.

The bolts themselves are ok and tight (although of different size between right and left which is weird)
 
Thank you.

Thing is - they are both (these rubber bushings?) totally broken or worn, so they don't even fill the gap.

The bolts themselves are ok and tight (although of different size between right and left which is weird)
Remove or partially remove the air box, fill the gap between the rubber insert and box with silicone sealer, allow at least a day then put back, all the bolts were the same size originally
 
Remove or partially remove the air box, fill the gap between the rubber insert and box with silicone sealer, allow at least a day then put back, all the bolts were the same size originally

Thank you for the help!

Question: are these broken (from the airbox)? Where can I get new ones? (Not in the UK BTW)

Thx again!


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Thank you once again.

What about this part which connects the airbox to the Throttle body?

Where can I buy an OEM one like this (shipped outside the UK)? If you happen to know - much appreciated!


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Again, new to this car.

What do you guys make of this?
Almost certainly yes. I put two sticky back foam pads on mine and it was blissfully quiet. You can also slack the intake clamp and shift that a little. The whole air box is a bit rough in the fixings department. The throttle body seal is also a little loose. originally glued on with something or other. Not critical if it sits nicely and has no tears it should be fine. Take care to not break therear most push on loop. Very easily broken. The air box is expensive, but Easy Fix two part glue works a treat even when this has been broken right off.
 
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Almost certainly yes. I put two sticky back foam pads on mine and it was blissfully quiet. You can also slack the intake clamp and shift that a little. The whole air box is a bit rough in the fixings department. The throttle body seal is also a little loose. originally glued on with something or other. Not critical if it sits nicely and has no tears it should be fine. Take care to not break therear most push on loop. Very easily broken. The air box is expensive, but Easy Fix two part glue works a treat even when this has been broken right off.

THANK YOU! Will definitely get to this ASAP!

While you are right and I do need to take care of this noise (I HATE rattling noises they can drive me insane) I found out that this also had to do with a need for a good throttle body clean. See this post:

 
THANK YOU! Will definitely get to this ASAP!

While you are right and I do need to take care of this noise (I HATE rattling noises they can drive me insane) I found out that this also had to do with a need for a good throttle body clean. See this post:

Our Panda was doing this. The spring which holds the front of the filter to the manifold was missing and the same mount as yours, on the side of the filter body was loose just like yours is. I found a spring in my box of "stuff which might be useful one day" and used some large electrical grommets on the case. All nice and quiet now.
 
Our Panda was doing this. The spring which holds the front of the filter to the manifold was missing and the same mount as yours, on the side of the filter body was loose just like yours is. I found a spring in my box of "stuff which might be useful one day" and used some large electrical grommets on the case. All nice and quiet now.
While you're in there cleaning the throttle body, look down on the right hand side of the throttle body and you'll see an electrical sensor which is held in by just one torx screw (mine is a torx anyway on our 2010 panda) This is the MAP sensor - it's monitoring the air pressure in the inlet manifold. It needs to be able to react quickly to changes in pressure and mine was contaminated with oil from the breather system. Clean the end of it with sensor or carb, or maybe even brake cleaner and leave to dry before refitting. Also give the hole it fits into a good "skoosh" of cleaner spray as there may be oil residue in there. It's a maintenance job I do at the annual service now and it makes quite a difference to how she runs
 
While you're in there cleaning the throttle body, look down on the right hand side of the throttle body and you'll see an electrical sensor which is held in by just one torx screw (mine is a torx anyway on our 2010 panda) This is the MAP sensor - it's monitoring the air pressure in the inlet manifold. It needs to be able to react quickly to changes in pressure and mine was contaminated with oil from the breather system. Clean the end of it with sensor or carb, or maybe even brake cleaner and leave to dry before refitting. Also give the hole it fits into a good "skoosh" of cleaner spray as there may be oil residue in there. It's a maintenance job I do at the annual service now and it makes quite a difference to how she runs

Did NOT even think of this despite knowing about the MAF sensor. WILL LOOK INTO IT!!!!!! Awesome advice! thanks so much!


This forum is amazing!
 
Do be gentle with the map sensor spray with cleaner but no rough cleaning
Oh yes, don't even think about scrubbing it with anything. Just give it a good spray of cleaner. Sorry, should have said that.
It does not have a Mass Air Flow sensor, but a Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor.

gr J
Absolutely. MAF and MAP sensors are both used to feed info regarding air flow to the engine control electronics so they can manage stuff like fuel supply and ignition timing. The MAF does it by sensing the flow of air through the inlet system whereas the MAP measures the depression in the inlet manifold. As A3j says here, our wee engines don't use MAF sensors. Both suffer from contamination though and MAF sensors are often "self cleaning" in that they pass a high current through themselves at start up which burns off some of the contamination. Still benefit from cleaning with a suitable cleaner from time to time though.
 
Oh yes, don't even think about scrubbing it with anything. Just give it a good spray of cleaner. Sorry, should have said that.

Absolutely. MAF and MAP sensors are both used to feed info regarding air flow to the engine control electronics so they can manage stuff like fuel supply and ignition timing. The MAF does it by sensing the flow of air through the inlet system whereas the MAP measures the depression in the inlet manifold. As A3j says here, our wee engines don't use MAF sensors. Both suffer from contamination though and MAF sensors are often "self cleaning" in that they pass a high current through themselves at start up which burns off some of the contamination. Still benefit from cleaning with a suitable cleaner from time to time though.

Phenomenal! Thank you.

What is this "wee engines"? Is this some British slang I am unfamiliar with?
 
Phenomenal! Thank you.

What is this "wee engines"? Is this some British slang I am unfamiliar with?
Sorry man, "Wee" is very common Scottish slang for "little" but is also used for needing to Urinate - as in asking your child before going out in the car "are you sure you don't need a wee"? or, as you're hopping from one foot to the other with legs crossed "I really really need a wee!!!" Hope that wasn't too much info :unsure: :ROFLMAO:
 
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