no there the wires that go into the realy block that is bolted to the side of the heater box on the pic on this site! just im missing it so iv been doing my own by following page on here but its says nothing about 4x brown and white
Technical How to fit a 16v Fire engine in a Panda
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Technical How to fit a 16v Fire engine in a Panda
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Yes, I am running 14 inch wheels, had to do that to make room for bigger brake discs.
I posted some pics in the gallery, you can see more at
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I posted some pics in the gallery, you can see more at
angelpeak.net/apweb/exp100
Cheers
hmm the best thing to do would be to find one from another car. take a trip down to the scrap yard and take some wire cutters with you. then just match the wire colours up 
Looks very interesting Oldmotorman - can we have a new thread with photos of the build and detailed specs please? - And welcome, You have friends here.
Wow Oldmotorman - that interior is stunning. Beautiful, beautiful work. :worship:
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Looks very interesting Oldmotorman - can we have a new thread with photos of the build and detailed specs please? - And welcome, You have friends here.
I will aim to do that
i am not sure, but i would try it.
it seems that your immobiliser issue has not been removed at all. i have never found anyone able to remove the immobiliser off a 90's Magneti Marelli ECU without removing the chip and reprogramming it.
if you have the key still try holding it up to the code box's loop antenna. if you have tried that.. maybe the antenna is broken or the code box is not connected correctly.
remember that the code box and ECU MUST come from the same car. as the code box and ecu are both linked.
i have a few ECU's but sadly most are missing code boxes so i makes them totally useless. none from 16v engines sadly
you may be lucky and find that if you leave everything plugged in, but have the battery disconnected over night then try it again the next day it may work. (mine did this)
if you have the key still try holding it up to the code box's loop antenna. if you have tried that.. maybe the antenna is broken or the code box is not connected correctly.
remember that the code box and ECU MUST come from the same car. as the code box and ecu are both linked.
i have a few ECU's but sadly most are missing code boxes so i makes them totally useless. none from 16v engines sadly
you may be lucky and find that if you leave everything plugged in, but have the battery disconnected over night then try it again the next day it may work. (mine did this)
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hey there, i hope these pictures help you out. note the plug is upside down for most of them (its the only side i could get the wire colours to show up on)
you should be able to get a plug out of any 90's Fiat car with a FIRE engine
you should be able to get a plug out of any 90's Fiat car with a FIRE engine
red = battery +
orange = ignition +
black = earth
Grey/Green = to same colour wire on ECU (pin 7 if i remember right)
blue/white = to CODE light. never give this wire a live or an earth. only earth the light through this. if the light is connected to a battery + it will flash when the car ignition is off (like a security light) when you turn the ignition on this light will light up while it reads the chip on the key, then go out. if the light stays lit it means that the immobiliser has not been lifted. when you start the engine this light will not flash or stay lit (as it would be annoying).
i have set mine up so it flashes when the ignition is off as i think it looks good
orange = ignition +
black = earth
Grey/Green = to same colour wire on ECU (pin 7 if i remember right)
blue/white = to CODE light. never give this wire a live or an earth. only earth the light through this. if the light is connected to a battery + it will flash when the car ignition is off (like a security light) when you turn the ignition on this light will light up while it reads the chip on the key, then go out. if the light stays lit it means that the immobiliser has not been lifted. when you start the engine this light will not flash or stay lit (as it would be annoying).
i have set mine up so it flashes when the ignition is off as i think it looks good
can i buy something like a chip to plug in the ecu so i dont need the key+key reader or the code box? because i dont have the key reader thats the problem i think because im getting 12v to the coil then drop to 0v but nothing on turn over?
the engine should still turn over even if the car was "hot wired". key or no key.
that sound like a fault not involving the ECU.
have you made sure that the starter motor is connected to the same wire the panda engine starter motor (red wire) was connected to and NOT connected the new engine loom in any way?
the starter takes 2 wires a huge red cable directly from the battery, and a smaller red cable that connects to a spade connector. (if you give this spade terminal a + it will engage the starter and turn the engine over. (just make sure its not in gear!)
if you have used the original panda wiring the fault could be the ignition switch that is on the way out. however i dont think this would be the case as its not often they fail.
check the wiring on the back and let me know how it goes.
that sound like a fault not involving the ECU.
have you made sure that the starter motor is connected to the same wire the panda engine starter motor (red wire) was connected to and NOT connected the new engine loom in any way?
the starter takes 2 wires a huge red cable directly from the battery, and a smaller red cable that connects to a spade connector. (if you give this spade terminal a + it will engage the starter and turn the engine over. (just make sure its not in gear!)
if you have used the original panda wiring the fault could be the ignition switch that is on the way out. however i dont think this would be the case as its not often they fail.
check the wiring on the back and let me know how it goes.
