General How a M-Jet 130 stands against a 182

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General How a M-Jet 130 stands against a 182

I agree in a straight line it's surprising how the GP fairs up to different cars.

But it is does not handle particularly well, it relies on the tyres too much (why do you think bridgestone potenzas are standard?) and especially with a heavy derv lump in the front it is quite nose heavy.

Couldn't agree more. The GP is good enough in a straight line but the crude rear suspension lets it down. If I can get a 1.4 8v seriously out of shape just going round lumpy bends, Gawd knows what a 130 would do! R182 or 225 would leave it for dead (and so would a Fiesta or a Golf Mk5, probably)

We paid our money (which is generally quite a lot less than the opposition) and this is what we get as a result! I'm not complaining, just trying to point to the obvious - sophistication costs
 
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Couldn't agree more. The GP is good enough in a straight line but the crude rear suspension lets it down. If I can get a 1.4 8v seriously out of shape just going round lumpy bends, Gawd knows what a 130 would do! R182 or 225 would leave it for dead (and so would a Fiesta or a Golf Mk5, probably)

We paid our money (which is generally quite a lot less than the opposition) and this is what we get as a result! I'm not complaining, just trying to point to the obvious - sophistication costs

Agreed. For the money paid it's to be expected, the GPS isn't tying be be a 182 or similar, thats what the abarth will try to achieve.
 
We paid our money (which is generally quite a lot less than the opposition) and this is what we get as a result! I'm not complaining, just trying to point to the obvious - sophistication costs

....categorically 'the' most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum to date!
 
....categorically 'the' most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum to date!

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Guys, the GP is not a hotcar, its a cooking hatch with warm pretentions.

The GPS handles about 100% better than my last car, a Mitsubishi Carisma (no Carisma whatsoever) but Jeez 110% reliable... and thats why I had it.

The GPS however makes me smile, its somewhat wierd with its oddball warnings, its fairly nippy, its a shedload cheaper to insure than any genuine Hothatch, its pretty economical on diesel... and the Clios mentioned on here are petrol I believe?

Lets compare apples with apples eh?

Reminds me of the "my Dads bigger than your Dad" arguments when I was at skool lol!
 
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"simplicity is the ultimate sophistication."
Leonardo Da Vinci

....the idea that a cost effective and simple approach isn't banal, it's elegant.

The simplest form of suspension was pneumatic tyres, and that was it. Hardly sophisticated or beautiful.

A live beam axle and leaf springs, or torque tubes, or whatever are hardly sophisticated, but look a bit better, and the latter works well up to a point.

Now, double equal length wishbones with progressive springs and damper rates, magnetically controlled by an on-board computer would be sophisticated and great to have on a cooking hatch, but quite a bit too expensive!

Just where is this thread going besides off the road?
 
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I sold my GP 1.9 JTD Sporting in September and bought a Clio 197 - not sure I've changed my signature yet!? I've had pretty much all the Renault hot hatches since the Clio 16V, but fell for the GP before the 197 was on sale.

I had my GP for over a year and there's no doubt that it was a respectably quick car in certain circumstances, especially in "normal" driving where flexibility is key. But there's also no question that a Renaultsport 197, 182, 172 etc is a quicker car.

As an example: with 3 passengers aboard, I found that my GP was able to match a 180bhp Audi TT through the gears after I'd held it behind and let the revs drop right down to 2,000rpm :devil:. But, in a proper dual carriageway assult against some boggo 2.0 petrol rep-mobiles, I found that the GP was only just keeping pace! :confused: There's no question that my 197 now (which is closer to 172 than 182 pace) dispenses with anything like that...should I be able to drop a gear or three!

Handling is a very personal thing, but most would agree that although the grip of the GP is really good, the Renaultsport cars have far more fluidity and feedback - where the GP can be unsettled and harsh. But I guess the Abarth addresses this; the GP would muller a Clio DCi Dynamique!!

I made the move back to the Renaultsport fold because 45+mpg wasn't much use to me when I only do 8k miles a year and wanted some induction gargle at 7,000rpm! But I'd find it very hard to argue with anyone choosing the GP as a swift and able all-rounder in the face of a daily commute or as a company car. :cool:
 
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