Technical Help needed failed mot on emissions so I buy a new cat will this fix my emissions

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Technical Help needed failed mot on emissions so I buy a new cat will this fix my emissions

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Anyone can give me guidance took my Fiat punto grande in for mot today and it failed again on emissions seems to be a common fault on this car as I have checked previous owners mot and failed last few mot on emission need to know what I need to do to fix the issue weather be getting a new oxygen sensor and clean cat or new cat I'm a women and only know on what I have been reading online obviously one is a lot more expensive than the other attached emissions readings any help would be fantastic thank you
 
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Fiat punto grande
Year
2005

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Make sure there are no leaks in the exhaust. After just 1 year my rear silencer box clamp had rusted away and most of it was gone. A small leak, not noisy, was the cause of our ills. Other things too check.
You need a clean air filter
Clean air box to engine breather hoses, in decent condition.
Oil changes not too long ago and possibly plugs.

My guess is exhaust leak......
or oxygen sensors may be playing up/ faulty. These can be checked before replacement if required.
 
Make sure there are no leaks in the exhaust. After just 1 year my rear silencer box clamp had rusted away and most of it was gone. A small leak, not noisy, was the cause of our ills. Other things too check.
You need a clean air filter
Clean air box to engine breather hoses, in decent condition.
Oil changes not too long ago and possibly plugs.

My guess is exhaust leak......
or oxygen sensors may be playing up/ faulty. These can be checked before replacement if required.
Thank you you have been a great help
 
You will not fix this yourself. Find competent mechanic and demand proper Diagnosis (not parts swapping), measurements, prints, hard data.
This is neglected and old car. One thing (single new part) will not heal it.
It needs more probably. Combination of multiple issues (minimum 2-3 from the list): old catalytic converter, old lambda sensors, old weak ignition coils, worn sparkplugs, old fuel pump (pressure too low), exhaust leaks, excessive oil consumption (burning), bad valve lash (clearance) if it's 8V unit.
Not complete list, just a few examples.
 
This engine is running rich, meaning it is putting too much fuel in for the amount of air.
The cat is unlikely to be a cause of this, but is struggling to clean up the exhaust, as it needs the gas coming out of the engine to be within quite narrow parameters.
The fuelling is controlled mainly from the input from the primary oxgen sensor. The primary sensor is before the cat, and the computer will adjust mixture values as a result of these readings. The secondary sensor, after the cat, will give a check that the cat is functioning, but will give bad readings if the input is wrong.
It is possible that a new primary sensor will fix the issue, but this should not be done until after proper diagnosis.
As said above, a check of the exhaust is necessary first, to ensure there are no leaks. A leak is unlikely, as this is checked by the MOT tester, and you;ve not reported a problem there. The MOT is just a check for safety and legality, and no diagnosis is done for that fee.
Then a computer needs connecting to monitor the readings from the sensors, preferably from a cold start, and this will hopefully show what is happening.

As said above, general engine condition will affect the efficiency of the combustion process, so a compression check, and valve clearance check should also be carried out. No parts should be changed until after a proper diagnosis. Some people have had leaking injectors, so they continue to dribble fuel after they should cut off. This is unusual, but a possibility.
 
Sadly this is one issue for which you're unlikely to find a silver bullet online. As others have alluded, there could be a whole host of reasons why your vehicle is running rich. Determining the root cause(s) requires careful diagnosis by a professional or, at a minimum, someone you know and trust with expertise and patience. Only then can you determine whether it's viable to repair.

If I were you I'd start by trying to contact the previous owner to see whether he/she can shed some light on the issue. If it's happened before then the previous owner should be able to point you in the right direction. In addition, check any paperwork that came with the vehicle. Old invoices and service documents may lend a clue. If the previous owner entrusted maintenance with the same garage, then contact them to see if they have any recollections. Finally, (and it's a long shot), you can check MOT History online to see if that offers up any clues. MOT History lists advisories so you may be able to glean information by comparing a previous failure with a subsequent pass. You may not get a definitive answer but any clues may help to focus your investigation.
 
Anyone can give me guidance took my Fiat punto grande in for mot today and it failed again on emissions seems to be a common fault on this car as I have checked previous owners mot and failed last few mot on emission need to know what I need to do to fix the issue weather be getting a new oxygen sensor and clean cat or new cat I'm a women and only know on what I have been reading online obviously one is a lot more expensive than the other attached emissions readings any help would be fantastic thank you
Was the previous MOT where it passed before done at a local garage? If so I’d be tempted to take it back there. I’ve had many a car that’s failed on emissions and the old “it’ll be £30 for some fuel cleaner and it’ll probably go through” and they always find a way 😉
 
Was the previous MOT where it passed before done at a local garage? If so I’d be tempted to take it back there. I’ve had many a car that’s failed on emissions and the old “it’ll be £30 for some fuel cleaner and it’ll probably go through” and they always find a way 😉
Yep, that's why I always try to take my car to a garage that's strictly an MOT testing station only. That way you're not at risk of the tester trying to drum up some business.

However, in this case there's a clear history of the same problem. The previous owner may have found workarounds rather than actually cure the fault.
 
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