Panda Fiat Panda Headunit

[hodgy18]

Got a Pioneer MVH330DAB radio to fit and discovered more plugs than the 16 plug pin. See image. What these foryellow/green/blue wires? Do I need a adapter plug other than the one supplied with new stereo to include these?

Cheers

 

[FiatMatt94]

Does it have an aftermarket stereo already or is it the original ?, I installed a Pioneer MVH130DAB stereo ( same as yours but without Bluetooth) in my Panda 319 which will be pretty much the same, I had to get the iso adapter with the canbus interface on it for 2003 on Panda's, then a different fascia specific to a Panda, than an adapter for the aerial as my Panda had a fakra aerial as standard & then the DAB aerial, if I can think of anything else I'll put it on here but I think that's it

 

[hodgy18]

Hiya

It's a 169 Panda, but it has the original blaupunkt head unit in.

 

[FiatMatt94]

The iso adapter for the aftermarket stereos in both the 169 & 319 Pandas are both the same as are some other Fiat's & Alfa's.

This is the one I used in my own car which didn't have steering wheel controls

Fiat Panda Mk2 and Mk3 2004- Onwards CAN BUS Radio harness / ISO adaptor lead | eBay

Fiat - Ducato Mk3 (2006 - 2014). Fiat - Panda 2nd Gen (Type 169) (2004 - 2012). If it turns off only once removed the you have a CAN bus car which will need this adapter for a new after market radio.

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I'm not sure if there is another one though for cars with steering wheel controls, the good thing with the 169 Panda is you can either have a double din or a single din with a little storage compartment

 

[hodgy18]

Thanks FiatMatt94 - my car doesn't have the steering wheel controls, so will be suitable. Can't believe the harness is nearly same price as stereo

 

[FiatMatt94]

Thanks FiatMatt94 - my car doesn't have the steering wheel controls, so will be suitable. Can't believe the harness is nearly same price as stereo

I got quite a shock as well when I saw how much the price of the harness has gone up since I bought mine, I paid about £35 when I purchased it 2 years ago, the part no is 20-101-IGN so maybe a bargain could be found somewhere

 

[hodgy18]

Brill, thank you. I'll have a look about thanks again

 

[hodgy18]

I got quite a shock as well when I saw how much the price of the harness has gone up since I bought mine, I paid about £35 when I purchased it 2 years ago, the part no is 20-101-IGN so maybe a bargain could be found somewhere

Does it make a difference with harness, that current radio doesn't switch on/off with the ignition? Or will this harness allow the new one to do so?

 

[koalar]

Does it make a difference with harness

Yes

a cheaper harness adaptor but you will have to splice into a ignition switched wire and feed that into to radio so the head unit can detect when the ignion is on or off, to make it work with the ignition switch

current radio doesn't switch on/off with the ignition?

a more expensive harness with some electronic gizmo are plug and play it receives the network messages (canbus) and converts them to something a standard radio can use to know when to switch it on and off

 

[koalar]

Fiat Canbus adapters are £12-20 including shipping direct from china

I can't recommend any as I haven't used them


The first one i looked at, a review say it worked fine on a fiat 500

Here's another, a quick Google found

Yes you will have to wait a few weeks for it to arrive

Again I haven't used the supplier

CAN Bus Wiring Harness, for Fiat Doblo Punto Uno 500, Lancia Delta, ISO Cable Adapter, Plug and Play, for 16 Pin Car Android - AliExpress

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[hodgy18]

Fiat Canbus adapters are £12-20 including shipping direct from china

I can't recommend any as I haven't used them


The first one i looked at, a review say it worked fine on a fiat 500

Here's another, a quick Google found

Yes you will have to wait a few weeks for it to arrive

Again I haven't used the supplier

CAN Bus Wiring Harness, for Fiat Doblo Punto Uno 500, Lancia Delta, ISO Cable Adapter, Plug and Play, for 16 Pin Car Android - AliExpress

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

www.aliexpress.com

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Thanks for that - I'll have a look

 

[Keepthe12alive]

Yes

a cheaper harness adaptor but you will have to splice into a ignition switched wire and feed that into to radio so the head unit can detect when the ignion is on or off, to make it work with the ignition switch



a more expensive harness with some electronic gizmo are plug and play it receives the network messages (canbus) and converts them to something a standard radio can use to know when to switch it on and off

What’s the safe way to splice into ignition switch?

 

[koalar]

Piggy back fuse

Not our car but the principle is the same around the 5 minutes



Bonus is it's easy reversible if you sell the car

 

[hodgy18]

In the end I didn't bother with a harness from memory and wired up directly. Works a treat and i treated it to some better Pioneer speakers all round. Under seat subwoofer is brill.

 

[Keepthe12alive]

Yes

a cheaper harness adaptor but you will have to splice into a ignition switched wire and feed that into to radio so the head unit can detect when the ignion is on or off, to make it work with the ignition switch



a more expensive harness with some electronic gizmo are plug and play it receives the network messages (canbus) and converts them to something a standard radio can use to know when to switch it on and off

Just to double check — is it this part (circled in red) I need in order to make sure the head unit turns off with the car?

 

[Keepthe12alive]

Just to double check — is it this part (circled in red) I need in order to make sure the head unit turns off with the car?

I’ve got a really really good deal on a unit that comes with this connector

 

[koalar]

Just to double check — is it this part (circled in red) I need in order to make sure the head unit turns off with the car?

Yes

If you want plug and play

It all just pushes together and works

No need to alter or add any wiring

 

[Keepthe12alive]

Yes

If you want plug and play

It all just pushes together and works

No need to alter or add any wiring

And if I don’t have this piece, will the head unit drain power from the battery if the ignition is off?

 

[Keepthe12alive]

Yes

If you want plug and play

It all just pushes together and works

No need to alter or add any wiring

And if I don’t have this piece, will the head unit drain power from the battery if the ignition is off?

 

[koalar]

And if I don’t have this piece, will the head unit drain power from the battery if the ignition is off?

It will not auto switch on and off with the ignition key

You will have to remember to power it on and off manually