Technical Ducato 2003 wipers not returning flat after use

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Technical Ducato 2003 wipers not returning flat after use

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The wipers on my 2003 Ducato 2.8 motorhome base, are not returning to the horizontal position.
Has anyone encountered this before and how did you fix it?
TIA
 
Model
Ducato
Year
2003
Mileage
116000
The wipers on my 2003 Ducato 2.8 motorhome base, are not returning to the horizontal position.
Has anyone encountered this before and how did you fix it?
TIA
If wipers stop as soon as you switch off wiper switch anywhere on the screen , it usually means it is not "self parking".
This can be a fault in the wiper motor it's self or the live supply to the motor that allows it to keep going until it reaches the correct parking point after you have switched off wiper switch.
With a multimeter it is possible to test for power at wiper motor with ignition on and wipers switched off, generally if there is a 12 volt supply to the wiper motor when you test like that, it points to an issue with the wiper motor it's self.
 
If wipers stop as soon as you switch off wiper switch anywhere on the screen , it usually means it is not "self parking".
This can be a fault in the wiper motor it's self or the live supply to the motor that allows it to keep going until it reaches the correct parking point after you have switched off wiper switch.
With a multimeter it is possible to test for power at wiper motor with ignition on and wipers switched off, generally if there is a 12 volt supply to the wiper motor when you test like that, it points to an issue with the wiper motor it's self.
Thanks, I will give that a go. They do switch off when i cancel them, they just end in the wrong place. i.e not parking.
 
If wipers stop as soon as you switch off wiper switch anywhere on the screen , it usually means it is not "self parking".
This can be a fault in the wiper motor it's self or the live supply to the motor that allows it to keep going until it reaches the correct parking point after you have switched off wiper switch.
With a multimeter it is possible to test for power at wiper motor with ignition on and wipers switched off, generally if there is a 12 volt supply to the wiper motor when you test like that, it points to an issue with the wiper motor it's self.
I am sorry but based on my reading of the eLearn diagram, which I agree is slightly inaccurate in its original form, I cannot agree with the above.
I have attached a copy of my corrected version of diagram E3020. Please note that by convention, all relays and switches are shown in the de-enrgised, or off position.

The wiper motor is at the lower RHS of the diagram. With ignition on. the wiper motor receives a 12V supply at pin 3, wire colou L = blue. The motor unit receives controlling earth signals on three wires including one for park.
In my opinion, the eLearn functional description is of little use, so what follows is my interpretation of the diagram.

With the wipers not in the parked position, the park contact inside the motor is operated. This sends an earth signal back to the column switch assembly, which probably contains some electronics. When the wipers are switched off the "not parked" signal from the motor is either relayed or directly returned to the motor, via the lo speed wire. (My naming, but consistent with eLearn.) The motor drives to the park position, where its internal switch opens, and the signals are removed. Any corrections are welcome.

If I am correct, then I would expect to see an earth signal at pin 6 of the motor (wire colour HN = Grey/Black), when the wiper blades are not parked. If testing for this with a multimeter, then perhaps check for resistance to earth, as the internal contact could be high reistance.

I am puzzled by the connection immediately to the left of the park contacts inside the motor box on thediagram. It does not appear to serve any useful purpose.
 

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I am sorry but based on my reading of the eLearn diagram, which I agree is slightly inaccurate in its original form, I cannot agree with the above.
I have attached a copy of my corrected version of diagram E3020. Please note that by convention, all relays and switches are shown in the de-enrgised, or off position.

The wiper motor is at the lower RHS of the diagram. With ignition on. the wiper motor receives a 12V supply at pin 3, wire colou L = blue. The motor unit receives controlling earth signals on three wires including one for park.
In my opinion, the eLearn functional description is of little use, so what follows is my interpretation of the diagram.

With the wipers not in the parked position, the park contact inside the motor is operated. This sends an earth signal back to the column switch assembly, which probably contains some electronics. When the wipers are switched off the "not parked" signal from the motor is either relayed or directly returned to the motor, via the lo speed wire. (My naming, but consistent with eLearn.) The motor drives to the park position, where its internal switch opens, and the signals are removed. Any corrections are welcome.

If I am correct, then I would expect to see an earth signal at pin 6 of the motor (wire colour HN = Grey/Black), when the wiper blades are not parked. If testing for this with a multimeter, then perhaps check for resistance to earth, as the internal contact could be high reistance.

I am puzzled by the connection immediately to the left of the park contacts inside the motor box on thediagram. It does not appear to serve any useful purpose.
Thanks, that is really helpful, I'll get under the bonnet later on and have a look.
 
If the wipers are parking but in the wrong position it could possibly be a problem with the linkage. The splines can strip or if a tapered fit a nut worked loose .
 
If the wipers are parking but in the wrong position it could possibly be a problem with the linkage. The splines can strip or if a tapered fit a nut worked loose .
Good points, but I think in this case the wipers work but when switched off do not park at bottom of screen as normal.
 
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