AynsX
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Is there anyway i can turn my day lights on and off without having to click through the menu?
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Not that I've been able to find. One of those minor annoyances.
rockaroller
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is there a reason you want to turn them off... there was a big whoooha when bmw motorbikes also came out with no option to switch the main light off... it was all over the forums as people did not want it on. But then after a while you get use to it and it does make you more visible on the road...
RnR
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Most people prefer the option of making choices for themselves, rather than having the latest fad imposed upon them by know-all bureaucrats and politicians. It should be up to the individual wheher they want to drive around like a tool with or without unneccessary lights blazing away in front.
My Cagiva bike has headlights wired to be permanantly on, which is a proper pain when you're trying to start a cold 650cc V-twin with a possibly sluggish battery, electronic fuel injection and a headlight on full chucking out serious amounts of heat and excess light. I'd rather not have to jump start the thing or call the AA....
My Cagiva bike has headlights wired to be permanantly on, which is a proper pain when you're trying to start a cold 650cc V-twin with a possibly sluggish battery, electronic fuel injection and a headlight on full chucking out serious amounts of heat and excess light. I'd rather not have to jump start the thing or call the AA....
TrevC
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But you can make the choice with the FIAT. As long as you don't keep changing your mind, where's the problem in turning them on/off via the menu?
I agree. That's why I don't wear my seatbelt and I've disabled all of the airbags in the car. That'll teach those ignorant bureaucrats and politicians!!!! When I go flying through the windscreen I'll flick them the bird! That'll learn them for trying to make me safer
TwinAir Newbie
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Get rid of all safety features and replace them with a poison tipped spike coming out of the wheel boss stopping a few inches in front of the driver's chest. That should concentrate the mind.
My 1953 Lanchester is basically just that. A solid steering column (no collapsible cans in those days) & no belts really does concentrate the mind. Drum brakes (no power assistance) on a car weighing almost 1 1/2 tons makes stopping in modern traffic interesting, too. Been awhile since I drove it but I can remember clearly how vulnerable it feels not to be wearing a seatbelt.
60bhp through a massively lossy torque converter gives effectively about 1/3 the power-to-weight ratio of a 1.2 500, so pulling away at the lights is a very leisurely affair.
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this isn't how regulations are developed
unfortunately some people need protecting from themselves, and we all need protecting from those that drive like tools endangering others
Exactly. Anyone who follows any sort of FIA regulated motorsport will know that the FIA have done a lot of research into road safety and when they recommend ESP be fitted as standard there is good reason because it suits a great proportion of the population and keeps everyone as safe as possible.
I agree with what you're saying, I've driven cars which by modern standards were unsafe, but I'd still rather drive a car now which has more safety features.
I'd also like to be given the choice of buying the basic, sub-Pop model of the 500 that is available in some European and global markets.
It comes with e.g. fewer heavy, expensive airbags than the Pop, but is obviously far too dangerous to be offered to the British motoring public. Or maybe the typical female buyer just wouldn't consider it...
My 10 year old Brava was however deemed perfectly safe with 2 airbags when it was made and sold, it and its occupants managed to survive a motorway spin and rear-end impact without them deploying.
It comes with e.g. fewer heavy, expensive airbags than the Pop, but is obviously far too dangerous to be offered to the British motoring public. Or maybe the typical female buyer just wouldn't consider it...
My 10 year old Brava was however deemed perfectly safe with 2 airbags when it was made and sold, it and its occupants managed to survive a motorway spin and rear-end impact without them deploying.
Have you ever heard of the suffix "er" which basically means "more of what was before me" so if "er" follows after the word safe it means more safe innit? So because your Brava survived one particular accident it doesn't mean safety should stand still.
Complaining about safety features which Fiat are putting in the car and which you have no choice of not speccing is like waking up at 7:25 tomorrow just so I can walk outside and shake my fist at the sun for rising. I didn't want ESP on my car so I didn't spec it. If when ESP is made compulsory on cars I have to have it then I'll have to have it. Simple as that.
So how's your "compulsory winter tyres" campaign coming on?
Hurry up... we all need saving from ourselves!
Oh and while you're at it... standard fitment infra-red Head-Up Display units in case we need to drive through fog and bonfire smoke on the motorway at 70....
Hurry up... we all need saving from ourselves!
Oh and while you're at it... standard fitment infra-red Head-Up Display units in case we need to drive through fog and bonfire smoke on the motorway at 70....
You must have me confused with someone else? You'll find that I don't believe that they should be compulsory.
https://www.fiatforum.com/leisure-lounge/285752-winter-tyre-warning.html
It's fun to lie about people though innit?
then buy a Panda? or a secondhand Seicento
a rear end impact would not deploy airbags, they deploy on a high g deceleration
suggest you read up on safety tech before criticising
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I quite agree. Appreciate some people don't like the DRLs, but for me personally I see nothing wrong with them at all.
I agree, a Panda is (at the moment) a sensible, viable alternative. I recently hired one for a week in Italy, nice spec, no stop-start, minimal unnecessary complications. Very enjoyable little car, highly recommended.
No doubt that will all change when the new Panda comes out .. probably with extra unnecessary length, weight and cost.. but of course much safer than the "deathtrap" it will replace...
Similarly the Seicento was excellent, probably the last genuine, sensible small car we will ever see. Just check out the ridiculous "equivalent" now offered by Toyota! Horrendous!
No doubt that will all change when the new Panda comes out .. probably with extra unnecessary length, weight and cost.. but of course much safer than the "deathtrap" it will replace...
Similarly the Seicento was excellent, probably the last genuine, sensible small car we will ever see. Just check out the ridiculous "equivalent" now offered by Toyota! Horrendous!
i think the Seicento 600 is still in production for some markets, at least it was about a year ago
there are lots of cool small cars currently being developed by various manufacturers
