REALLY?!?!?!?! I never would have imagined that, not in a million freaking years
I had no idea it was going to be an estate. I was thinking it was going to be a hatchback.
General 4-door Fiat 500....any news?
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General 4-door Fiat 500....any news?
I had no idea it was going to be an estate. I was thinking it was going to be a hatchback.
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When does a hatchback become an estate?
That is based on the Panda/500/Ka though, the Ellezero is based on the Grande Punto/Punto Evo/Punto
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You mean the Fiat Group are actually making something that's not based on the 2003 Panda! Wow. Shame it' so ugly though.
The 500's original big brother the multipla 600 was cute and a bit more practical, these 4 door versions are just ugly.
Fiat have plenty of 4/5 door versions on the range: if you want a 500: it has 2 doors and a boot: live with it, if you want 5 doors get a panda/brava/punto/stilo whatever, take your pick don't screw the 500 design up.
Fiat have plenty of 4/5 door versions on the range: if you want a 500: it has 2 doors and a boot: live with it, if you want 5 doors get a panda/brava/punto/stilo whatever, take your pick don't screw the 500 design up.
This is an article from auto express showing spy shots of the new 500mpv testing
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/277495/fiat_500_mpv.html
i dont know if anyone else has realised but as i looked at the pictures the first and second picture have different wheels? or is it just my imagination, more spokes on first, and less on the second?
it looks very similar to me, to the countryman from the side
anyway what do we reckon?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/277495/fiat_500_mpv.html
i dont know if anyone else has realised but as i looked at the pictures the first and second picture have different wheels? or is it just my imagination, more spokes on first, and less on the second?
it looks very similar to me, to the countryman from the side
anyway what do we reckon?
For the umpteenth time and for the benefit of any future posters
THIS IS NOT A 500! IT IS CALLED THE ELLEZERO, IT IS NOT BASED ON THE PANDA/500/KA IT IS BASED on the GRANDE PUNTO/PUNTO EVO/PUNTO PLATFORM. IT IS NOT A 500 EVEN THOUGH IT MAY LOOK A LITTLE LIKE A 500 AND MONGTARD MOTOR JOURNALISTS MIGHT SAY IT'S A 500 MPV OR 5 DOOR 500.
As an illustration of how feckless motoring journalists are, did anyone see Breakfast on the Beeb this morning? Quentin Wilson was on there jibber jabbering about how good the Mitsubishi Miev he has is. The journalist interviewing him said "But what about when you have to replace the batteries after 5 years?" to which he replied saying that in normal cars you have to replace the engine after 7-8 years. What an ignorant cock who shows the poor standard of motoring journalism very well..
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i just relayed the article , it just popped up on my facebook and decided to share, sorry if it has already been posted, i hadnt realised, im not saying it IS the next 500 , or the 4 door 500, i was just showing what the website believes to be the 4 door 500
I know, it's not your fault
It's just that as I said it isn't actually a 500 or related to a 500 and the media really need to get their brains in gear and realise this. If a supposedly reputable site says it's a 4/5 door 500 then what is the average reader meant to think?- Joined
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It can be very frustrating for some people not knowing what's 'down the line'. With the US A500 there was so much debate about will it have 135 or 160 and TBH I think they were trying to gauge the re-action - a bit like how HR (in a company) 'work' the grapevine.
Has anyone seen any Fiat produced 'article' on future models or a strategy outline that would be based on the 500 ?
Has anyone seen any Fiat produced 'article' on future models or a strategy outline that would be based on the 500 ?
There has been product roadmap out in the past. I don't think there was must based on the Panda/500/Ka platform other than the new Panda, a facelift for the 500 and of course the Ypsilon.
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As an illustration of how feckless motoring journalists are, did anyone see Breakfast on the Beeb this morning? Quentin Wilson was on there jibber jabbering about how good the Mitsubishi Miev he has is. The journalist interviewing him said "But what about when you have to replace the batteries after 5 years?" to which he replied saying that in normal cars you have to replace the engine after 7-8 years. What an ignorant cock who shows the poor standard of motoring journalism very well..[/QUOTE]
I saw Quentin say that and my immediate thought was what a ****. Particularly as he's always going on about some great cheap bargain old Roller or similar still going strong with a billion miles on the clock. Can't see any logical reason for the taxpayer to subsidise someone's need to feel good about themselves by buying an electric car to the tune of 5 grand.
I saw Quentin say that and my immediate thought was what a ****. Particularly as he's always going on about some great cheap bargain old Roller or similar still going strong with a billion miles on the clock. Can't see any logical reason for the taxpayer to subsidise someone's need to feel good about themselves by buying an electric car to the tune of 5 grand.
the logic is that electric cars will become cheaper as volumes made increase, hence the govenment stimulus subsidy
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THIS IS NOT A 500! IT IS CALLED THE ELLEZERO, IT IS NOT BASED ON THE PANDA/500/KA IT IS BASED on the GRANDE PUNTO/PUNTO EVO/PUNTO PLATFORM. IT IS NOT A 500 EVEN THOUGH IT MAY LOOK A LITTLE LIKE A 500 AND MONGTARD MOTOR JOURNALISTS MIGHT SAY IT'S A 500 MPV OR 5 DOOR 500.
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Maxi thats not true im afraid. Its on facebook by fiat and its called the 500 L.
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Fiat 500L
Introducing Fiat 500L: here are the first images of the new model that will have... its world preview at the Geneva Motor Show on March 6th 2012!
Vi presentiamo Fiat 500L: ecco le prime immagini del nuovo modello che farà il suo debutto mondiale al Salone di Ginevra il 6 marzo 2012!
and like I said. It is based on the Punto, not the 500.... hence it's not going to really look like a 500
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=10782218
I really think this is a silly move for Fiat. Whereas the Mini brand all share very very similar looks, interiors and the like, you've got a 500l that looks a bit like a 500 that's mated with a Qubo and has a Pandaesque interior and Punto running gear.
I can understand the Punto running gear, that's not a problem, but if you're going to try and make the 500 a multi model brand like the Mini brand then it needs to have a 500esque interior.
Epic fail. How many people are going to buy it expecting a 500 experience and find that they've got a mishmash of exterior and interior.
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I will wait until full pictures of the interior + options etc and exterior come out until i judge for sure, best of all seeing it in person. It looks remarkably similar to the Mini Countryman. If it is sold well specced for a good price i think it can sell well as for many ppl the Fiat 500 is simply too small. A 5 seater car with higher ground clearance for soutern european roads with alloys, leather interior, sunroof, all for less than 20,000 euros? Sounds like a winner to me, given that the Countryman is around 30,000 Euros.
And yes the front of the 500L reminded me of the Fiat Doblo van!
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Maxi - would you like a spoon or fork with which to eat your large portion of humble pie?
