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Technical 3bar fuel pump

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Technical 3bar fuel pump

Gotta love how this one always comes back... so lets bring it back :D

Right, ages ago i went in my local motorfactor and ordered a fuel pump and paid, went back 2 hours later to pick it up and it was wrong.. so we rang his suppliers and got another one ordered, that was wrong one too. So have left him to it, he knows exactly what i'm after but as of yet has not got the right pump in. Does anyone have the walbro part number for the ITP050, neither me or the guy can find it anywhere. Meanwhile the turbo is sat looking very very sorry for itself :( (or even a manufacturers part number of a suitable pump and what car its from)

edit: yes i could just get my money back and order one online but he will match the price and its at the bottom of my road (parts normally arrive within the hour) so i think its worth supporting him ;)
 
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yeah i know this, thats how we have gone about it so far, i'm not sure how we haven't ended up with the right one yet. I originally ordered an escort rs2000 16v EFi fuel pump from him, but what he got was a unipart pump and was wrong shape and size :confused: So then we went for a coupe 20vt pump as thats what i got for my old tub, when that arrived it was massive compared to what it should be, again :confused: So then i've stipulated to look at walbro pumps, having spent ages on phone he said he got one, defo same size but more powerful so ordered it. After that i went for some lunch and then go a call saying that he was wrong and it was no longer in production (that particular pump). And so i've left with him, but its been a far old while now and its just annoying me that if i had the actual part number then i could have it same afternoon (apart form he's now on holiday :( )

edit: i'm suprised that i cannot just find this info online but cannot be found i swear
 
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Its a 3bar pump. like i said ive run 1bar without any fueling issues.
The other pump in the car that used to be turno is from an fiat coupe 20v turbo... same pump.

I bet all the pumps of this design are pretty much the same.. there is no reason to manufacture a pump for each car when its the FPR that controls everything

I dont even think the regulator needs messing with. the fiat coupe 20v turbo pump is still in the old turbo car but it now had a standard 1.1 spi and it runs perfect.

also the regulator on the fuel rail of the mpi works great to. at idle it knocks off about a half a bar - 1bar of pressure. if you disconnect the vacume line the pressure goes up to around 3 bar... connect it to a foot pump and pressure goes up.
 
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The regulator can only control what's there -- and only controls pressure. Bosch -- for example -- make fuel pumps rated at anything from 60 to 200 lph.

Equally, most modern injectors are measured at 3bar -- but the output varies wildly!

I'd not take it on faith that a pump supplied for a 75bhp engine can provide enough gas for one producing twice that.
 
The regulator can only control what's there -- and only controls pressure. Bosch -- for example -- make fuel pumps rated at anything from 60 to 200 lph.

Equally, most modern injectors are measured at 3bar -- but the output varies wildly!

I'd not take it on faith that a pump supplied for a 75bhp engine can provide enough gas for one producing twice that.
 
fingers99 said:
The regulator can only control what's there -- and only controls pressure. Bosch -- for example -- make fuel pumps rated at anything from 60 to 200 lph.

Equally, most modern injectors are measured at 3bar -- but the output varies wildly!

I'd not take it on faith that a pump supplied for a 75bhp engine can provide enough gas for one producing twice that.
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BUT as i said... ive ran 1 bar of boost with no problems. the fuel pump is the same as the fiat coupe 20v turbo.

I highly doubt the pump that is 60lph is the same size as the 200lph.
what im saying is i bet there is a good chance that there is only a couple of pumps that are the same dimensions but have different pressure and flow.
the chances are fiat use the same pump for a lot of cars with huge range of outputs as its cheaper to buy/stock 1 pump then a pump for each car with each kind of engine
 
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I highly doubt the pump that is 60lph is the same size as the 200lph.
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You would be worng then, the Walbro 255L/hour pump on my integrale is same size as the Cinq SPi pump.

Though I do agree that is unlikely that there would be a massive amount of different pumps, though there are different part numbers for many Fiats http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/Inj-pump list 160708.pdf I believe Bosche only make about 6 different pumps that cover something like 90% of all cars produced.
 
Aaron -- re the part number for that fuel pump: I find in Blue's build file an order from you to Glencoe Ltd (strangely, based in Staines!) for -- amongst a lot of other items:

2 Inj. Pump kit 400/546/R2/01 ITPO50 (at £80 a hit) -- would those be the pumps for Blue and Martin's car? If so, the part number may only mean something to Glencoe, but is better than a slap in the face with a wet fish.
 
J333EVO said:
You would be worng then, the Walbro 255L/hour pump on my integrale is same size as the Cinq SPi pump.

Though I do agree that is unlikely that there would be a massive amount of different pumps, though there are different part numbers for many Fiats http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/Inj-pump list 160708.pdf I believe Bosche only make about 6 different pumps that cover something like 90% of all cars produced.
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wonder what the spec on the spi pump is? recon it will be more then 60lph tho

Im guessing the part numbers are not the same cos the attachments on the end?
 
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Aaron -- re the part number for that fuel pump: I find in Blue's build file an order from you to Glencoe Ltd (strangely, based in Staines!) for -- amongst a lot of other items:

2 Inj. Pump kit 400/546/R2/01 ITPO50 (at £80 a hit) -- would those be the pumps for Blue and Martin's car? If so, the part number may only mean something to Glencoe, but is better than a slap in the face with a wet fish.
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Yeah that will be them, I phoned up Glencoe Ltd (www.fuelsystem.co.uk) told them the specs of the car and what I was aiming to achieve with them, they had a look through there range and came back with the RS2000 pump being ideal.

I'm all for asking for input by those who deal is specific areas, these guys deal in fuel system stuff all the time so you would like to think know there stuff.

And I think £80 is fair for a new pump, I'm not a fan of 2nd hand pumps as you are then introducing an unknown quantity.
 
fingers99 said:
Aaron -- re the part number for that fuel pump: I find in Blue's build file an order from you to Glencoe Ltd (strangely, based in Staines!) for -- amongst a lot of other items:

2 Inj. Pump kit 400/546/R2/01 ITPO50 (at £80 a hit) -- would those be the pumps for Blue and Martin's car? If so, the part number may only mean something to Glencoe, but is better than a slap in the face with a wet fish.
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Well looking at standard walbro pump right now, has following numbers:

O2
ESS 382
192 00 1M2

So that doesn't really tally up either :bang: this is becoming tiresome, really wish i'd just ordered one online now. Like i said the guy is on holiday now so can't sort it until he gets back, gonna give him 1 last chance then i'll be getting my money back. So when he gets back i'll be down there again :rolleyes: will ask this time for RS2000 pump (walbro) and see what he gets.
 
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