Technical Daytime running lights

[Johnrambo18]

I have a 500 purchased only a few months ago. Only today someone pointed out to me that the daytime lights were not working, which I hadn't realised until now.
The manual suggests that there is a menu setting to deactivate them. The only thing I can find is See Navigation. Is this the setting, or what does this mean? Suggestions appreciated

 

[John202020]

Hi what year is the car please

 

[Johnrambo18]

Hi what year is the car please

2023

 

[John202020]

2023

Do you have a handbook given its so new?

 

[decappottabile]

Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing, The LED's are NOT the DRL, they are parking lights (sidelights?).
There's some confusion about that as most cars have LED DRLs nowadays. DRL is the 21 Watt incandescent bulb just above the H7 high beam bulb.

DRL should be on when the ignition is on and the main beam (or dipped beam) is off. They turn off when the main beam is turned on. (The LEDs will be on)

 

[Johnrambo18]

Do you have a handbook given its so new?

Do you have a handbook given its so new?

Only the manual that came with the car, and that doesn't tell much. I did find a fuller manual online but it probably relates to earlier models

 

[decappottabile]

I guess this is what the mean by "see navigation"?

 

[Johnrambo18]

Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing, The LED's are NOT the DRL, they are parking lights (sidelights?).
There's some confusion about that as most cars have LED DRLs nowadays. DRL is the 21 Watt incandescent bulb just above the H7 high beam bulb.

DRL should be on when the ignition is on and the main beam (or dipped beam) is off. They turn off when the main beam is turned on. (The LEDs will be on)
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Yes it's definitely the DRL. The head and side lights are OK. The lowest ones in the photo.

 

[Johnrambo18]

Yes it's definitely the DRL. The head and side lights are OK. The lowest ones in the photo.

Correction, sorry! The bottom lights are actually the fog light. The middle one is the DRL, but I think I've sussed it now

 

[Johnrambo18]

I guess this is what the mean by "see navigation"?

Thanks, that's very helpful. Although it didn't answer the See Navigation question, it did point me in the right direction. I was previously accessing the menu on the speedometer with the 3 button next to the dial. The video showed the centre display (radio etc) and the Settings button have an option for Lights, where indeed the DRL can be toggled on/off

 

[decappottabile]

Thanks, that's very helpful. Although it didn't answer the See Navigation question, it did point me in the right direction. I was previously accessing the menu on the speedometer with the 3 button next to the dial. The video showed the centre display (radio etc) and the Settings button have an option for Lights, where indeed the DRL can be toggled on/off

That's the screen for the navigation system (if your car has it). maybe Fiat assumed every buyer opted for it

 

[Johnrambo18]

One thing this problem does show up is the lack of a comprehensive manual on the car. The short owner handbook supplied with the car is next to useless. There are some documents online but most refer to other versions (automatics) or earlier editions. Can anyone point to a better source of information?

 

[Johnrambo18]

An addendum to this in case anyone else has the same issue. The manual states that DRL can be toggled on/off in the settings, but seems to suggest this is accessed on the speedometer with the 3 buttons to the right. This is what confused me as my car does have a lights option on the speedometer. But as someone helpfully showed in a video above, there is another settings menu on the centre display and this is now where the lights option now resides.

 

[Derbyfella]

An addendum to this in case anyone else has the same issue. The manual states that DRL can be toggled on/off in the settings, but seems to suggest this is accessed on the speedometer with the 3 buttons to the right. This is what confused me as my car does have a lights option on the speedometer. But as someone helpfully showed in a video above, there is another settings menu on the centre display and this is now where the lights option now resides.

im guessing that depends n the model of the audio unit?

 

[Johnrambo18]

im guessing that depends n the model of the audio unit?

Yes likely does depend, but that is the solution in my case and for anyone else with same version

 

[lindyhart]

I have a 500 purchased only a few months ago. Only today someone pointed out to me that the daytime lights were not working, which I hadn't realised until now.
The manual suggests that there is a menu setting to deactivate them. The only thing I can find is See Navigation. Is this the setting, or what does this mean? Suggestions appreciated

I have a 2012 500 with the same problem. It isn't serious. The replacement part is no longer available in the US. I have decided to just leave it off. Do not really need and my turn signal is still working. As I understand it, because these run all the time when driving, the wiring gets "hot" and over time the connection harness wiring needs to be replaced. Pricey little item!! I'm letting it go for now.

 

[lindyhart]

I have a 2012 500 with the same problem. It isn't serious. The replacement part is no longer available in the US. I have decided to just leave it off. Do not really need and my turn signal is still working. As I understand it, because these run all the time when driving, the wiring gets "hot" and over time the connection harness wiring needs to be replaced. Pricey little item!! I'm letting it go for now.

 

[Johnrambo18]

Not the case with mine, its not a fault with the wiring. Just a setting which enables you to toggle DRL on or off. On mine this is accessed via "settings" on the central radio display panel. Other versions may have the setting on the speedometer menu

 

[varesecrazy]

I have a 2012 500 with the same problem. It isn't serious. The replacement part is no longer available in the US. I have decided to just leave it off. Do not really need and my turn signal is still working. As I understand it, because these run all the time when driving, the wiring gets "hot" and over time the connection harness wiring needs to be replaced. Pricey little item!! I'm letting it go for now.

In our Europe assembled cars the "holder" for the bulb gets VERY Hot, and the plastic crumbles

My 1st bulb failed to light at 42,000 miles illuminated,

When opposite bulb struggled to light @55,000 miles it was simply a poor connection
Wiring has been ok

Have you attempted to swap holders left to right and Right to Left?