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Panda 2012+ The new Panda has arrived!

Introduction

Picked up our new 1.2 Easy in Sweet Dreams Turquoise on Saturday - very pleased with it so far!

Have taken a few pics of the cargo box/folded passenger table so that people can see what it's like.

Ta!

Just replaced my trusty Panda MJ with a Sunset Red Panda TA and coming up to 700 miles of mainly A-road running. First calculated brim-to-brim fill-up gave 47.6mpg, the second 47.0. The computer readings are surprisingly close, under-reading by about 1mpg. I don't use S&S or the Eco setting. A deliberately restrained economy run (dead flat terrain on a glorious sunny day, and not exceeding 50mph) gave a computer trip reading over 90 miles of 57.6mpg. The Multijet gave me 72mpg over the same route last year. Obviously, the Twinair won't give anything near that in general use, especially when I boot it to get that "tractor on steroids" engine note, but it does show what a gentle foot can achieve. I am surprised at how high 5th gear is on the TA: almost the same as the MJ at 24mph/1000rpm, which means that it's a true overdrive gear, since maximum speed will be achieved in 4th gear (around 20mph/1000). If 5th could pull 5500rpm, the car would be doing 132mph!
There's a rough patch at 2000 rpm, especially in 5th, which makes cruising at 50 on undulating A-roads tiresome, and best done in 4th. However, it doesn't seem to penalise fuel consumption too much.
I found the steering slightly over-servoed compared to the MJ, ( but of course the engine will be lighter than the Diesel) and the brakes definitely so, but I'm now getting used to them both.
Hope these observations are of interest. :)

Good to see another new Panda out there, i think they look real good & i'm pleased Fiat went for an evolutionary rather than revolutionary approach to the new Panda. There wasn't alot wrong with the old Panda afterall.

Your observations are much the same as mine with my Parents 500 TwinAir, particularly:

*Late 40's mpg, upto late 50's if you make a specific effort to drive economically.
*Very tall 5th gear - on winding country roads i tend to hold onto 4th much of the time as like you i find 5th at 50mph pretty awkward, with lots of down-shifting needed if slowing down for bumps, other traffic etc.

It's a shame they didn't fit a 6 speed box to it like they have to the Punto TwinAir because i'd imagine this would make 5th more useable at low speeds & leave 6th for Motorways. Our 500 TA copes very well on the Motorway & the tall 5th helps, but it would be even better if it had a 6th and particularly if 5th could realisticly be used off the Motorway without the feeling that the engine is really labouring - i know the shift indicator thinks 5th is fine at 40mph but i'm very reluctant to agree, especially when the engine's so new & labouring will do no good to it at all!

Liam
 
Yep, those shift indicators really are truly sh***! They serve no purpose whatsoever I'm afraid, I thought they would be much more intelligent and in tune with the car's engine, but it doesn't appear that way at all. Climb above 1500rpm in 4th gear and it soon tells you to change up to 5th - even if you're going uphill!:D

I wonder actually what would happen if someone actually did cause serious damage to their engine by overloading it when new, despite actually following the "instructions" given by the car?

Would make for an interesting warranty claim, that's for sure!
 
Congratulations. We purchased an identicle car, same colour and spec, two weeks ago from Wilson's of Epsom. Delighted with the car, just a shame items like Mudflaps are not available.

As we live in a rural area we have had the front of the car and below the boot wrapped in Ventureshield to prevent stone damage.
 
Yep, those shift indicators really are truly sh***! They serve no purpose whatsoever I'm afraid, I thought they would be much more intelligent and in tune with the car's engine, but it doesn't appear that way at all. Climb above 1500rpm in 4th gear and it soon tells you to change up to 5th - even if you're going uphill!:D

I wonder actually what would happen if someone actually did cause serious damage to their engine by overloading it when new, despite actually following the "instructions" given by the car?

Would make for an interesting warranty claim, that's for sure!

I would dearly love to disable the darn thing, as I find it more a distraction than a help. I would also like the option of choosing Stop/start as required, instead of it being the default setting: I will hardly ever need it in my semi-rural area and find it disconcerting when I've forgotten to cancel! Still, not major problems. I like the car a lot.
Mike
 
I would dearly love to disable the darn thing, as I find it more a distraction than a help. I would also like the option of choosing Stop/start as required, instead of it being the default setting: I will hardly ever need it in my semi-rural area and find it disconcerting when I've forgotten to cancel! Still, not major problems. I like the car a lot.
Mike

Ahh, you should have just bought a 1.2 and then you wouldn't have S/S anyway! Serves you right for buying a hi-tech engine rather than a dinosaur;):D

I got a questionnaire through from Fiat's marketing agent (Gfk NOP) and I think I will mention about the shift indicators on there. Nothing else wrong with the car though, very happy with it!
 
Finally traded my Eco 1.1 for the new Panda Pop two weeks ago, the drive is so much better and it feels a lot more sturdy on the road. The interior is far better and the extra bits like an mp3 cd player and the 12v makes things a little more satisfying compared to the last model. My Glyn Hopkins dealer (Buckhurst Hill) was very helpful as well and he even threw in a free spare wheel when I told him I wasn't too keen on the new puncture repair kit. I've only done 100m so far but I'm looking forward to doing a few more miles and getting it on the motorway soon.

About the shift indicator, if been trying to use it but it never seems to point out when to change from 1st to 2nd and it keeps trying to get me to shift all the way up to 5th even when doing just 30pmh. A good idea in principle but it's not working.
 
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Hi RockSteady,

Nice to have a comparison to the previous model as well. Hope you enjoy many more miles in your new Panda!

Re Oscar's point as well, I guess it is just a dud then! In theory it is a good idea as I'm sure it could help to save fuel if it was telling you to change gear at the optimum moment for the engine. But it simply works based on the revs you are pulling, and is very low for the change from 4th to 5th.

Mentioned it in my questionnaire anyway, maybe if enough people mention it then the design might get modified in future? You never know!:D
 
Finally traded my Eco 1.1 for the new Panda Pop two weeks ago, the drive is so much better and it feels a lot more sturdy on the road. The interior is far better and the extra bits like an mp3 cd player and the 12v makes things a little more satisfying compared to the last model. My Glyn Hopkins dealer (Buckhurst Hill) was very helpful as well and he even threw in a free spare wheel when I told him I wasn't too keen on the new puncture repair kit. I've only done 100m so far but I'm looking forward to doing a few more miles and getting it on the motorway soon.

About the shift indicator, if been trying to use it but it never seems to point out when to change from 1st to 2nd and it keeps trying to get me to shift all the way up to 5th even when doing just 30pmh. A good idea in principle but it's not working.
My indicator is the same, however if I stick to what it advises I get terrific mileage. Luckily we live in a flat area so have no problems. Noticed the other day it even told me to shift down when I tried to pull away in the wrong gear.
 
I'm not a fan of the gear shift indicator either and I do my best to ignore it now. I'll mention it in the questionnaire as well.
 
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