plane misses runway at Heathrow

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i have to confess, i cheated. I knew what a bit of it meant, but someone explained the rest to me. The windshear was theory was just me though, but they're saying on the news now it just lost all power from the engines :confused:

I was impressed with you knowing so much .... so pleased you and Tom weren't here together having a convo about it tho ... :rolleyes:

I get to hear about aircraft safety every night when Tom gets home ... even more indepth now though :)
 
Cant see why they bother investigating it!
At the end of the day they always blame the poor bloody pilot!:mad:
 
I thought for a second that was an ACARS transmission. Nope.

TBH Ive been thinking unless there was some extraordinary atmospheric effects going on theres no way the ILS vector could be that far out, although from about 10 000ft the pilot would be flying it himself (although it COULD land and stop* itself without their intervention).

Reports claim the plane lost all power and had to glide in. The odds of having to In Flight Shut Down both engines is very very remote (1 in 10 000 000 or thereabouts if not greater under FAR25), although having to IFSD one is more plausible (1 in 100 000 000), and an ETOPS requirement is adequate power to TOGA (Take Off Go Around) on one engine.

My thoughts involve a very late IFSD on one engine then a later decision to power out and TOGA (a turbine of that size will take 5-10 secs to spool to full power), odds are EVERYTHING would stall (engine and wings), lift would disappear then it'd just slide along the grass. But Im not investigating so I can only speculate with some specialist knowledge.

That pilot's amazing though. Im surprised it wasnt more messy than that.

* I think - I know some newer Airbus FBW ones can.



For us thickos could you say that again in PLAIN English!:shakehead:
 
i have to confess, i cheated. I knew what a bit of it meant, but someone explained the rest to me. The windshear was theory was just me though, but they're saying on the news now it just lost all power from the engines :confused:

Ah, oh well still impressed, I have to read the things everyday before going on duty make sure I know what sort of day I have in front of me. Watched a few videos on windshear, pretty amazing how it can move such large aircraft in such a short space of time, was very bad accident a few years back in US caused by windshear. Though as you say now looks to a total power failure which is very unusual.

Yesterday not long after that happened at Heathrow I had an Airbus A320 go around due to a isolated thunder storm going straight over top of airfield, then had to vector him all over the sky avoiding the weather front as it moved slowly eastwards and bring him back onto the localiser from the North when he would normally intercept from the South.

What was not mentioned so much yesterday in the non-aviation world (was noted & praised in aviation circles) was the efforts of Air Traffic Control after the 777 crashed as they had to not only move and hold aircraft on a very busy ground movement area at Heathrow, but then divert and move aircraft about a very congested area of airspace to other airfields or to holding patterns, earned there money yesterday.
 
I always knew BA were getting hit hard by the Market Crash but this takes the biscuit.

Hows thats one pickle? :p :nerner:

As for mesh over the engine intakes..... ROFL, never heard anything so stupid in a long time. Its just an extra thing to go wrong and an increased risk of F.O.D (Foreign Object Damage) it would also disturb the air flow going into the engine which when at full throttle is important. Theres a Rolls Royce Jet engineer in the building next door to me right now I could go ask him ;).
 
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Theres a Rolls Royce Jet engineer in the building next door to me right now I could go ask him ;).

oooo go ask him his name, see if Tom knows him lol ... ask if they gonna test with more frozen chickens than one if both engines got struck by geese as mentioned earlier in the thread lol
 
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I always knew BA were getting hit hard by the Market Crash but this takes the biscuit.

Hows thats one pickle? :p :nerner:

Its catching on i see!(y)

Im suprised customs & excise didnt get involved with the amount of grass involved!
 
EGLL = London Heathrow?


I thought that was England London Luton :confused:
 
It couldve been a pilot error!:eek:
Apparently, the captain goes around with his head in the clouds!:ROFLMAO:
 
christ almighty the puns are appalling on here. shame on you Pickle... *chuckle* and well, Chris, you should know better.
 
Theres always the possibility that it was a severe case of chinese big bird flu!:shakehead:
If it was geese flying into the engines then i blame Jamie oliver & him promoting all this free range stuff!:yuck:



Sorry!, i'll get my coat!:D
 
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