General Panda 45 in Antigua

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General Panda 45 in Antigua

One thing at a time. I don't have clear enough pics of the vent/pipe but it also seems to go to the airbox or carb? but would need better pics from someone who has a 903 engine to confirm.

These are some pics I found.
Pirst pic seems there is a pipe attached but shown in reverse.
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This pic is parts on eper
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A=accelerator cable, B=choke cable, is C the pipe from that vent?
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Re the starter if you can get it to turn/spin when out of the vehicle there should be no reason why it shouldn't spin when on the vehicle. However the starter takes a lot of Amps and if the connection is poor then that is the only reason why it's not working can you not put a new thread on that terminal with a die and then find the correct nuts to suit.

When out of the vehicle does it continue to spin when the power is attached or does it spin then stop with power still attached?
 
Re the starter if you can get it to turn/spin when out of the vehicle there should be no reason why it shouldn't spin when on the vehicle. However the starter takes a lot of Amps and if the connection is poor then that is the only reason why it's not working can you not put a new thread on that terminal with a die and then find the correct nuts to suit.

When out of the vehicle does it continue to spin when the power is attached or does it spin then stop with power still attached?


ah ha[exclimation point] finally figured it out.

yes it was working 90 percent out of the car [had to wiggle the cable and voltage was fluctuating]. it was baffling...

but then i noticed something...the positive lead was 'sparking]. the order of current goes ----positive cable from battery --starter stud--bolt--washer--washer--braided cable thingy that goes into the starter. well i noticed that the big jumper leads, which i was using to spin the starter out of the car, caused the current to spark and 'jump' over those two washers[exclimation point]. i removed the washers - cleaned them with a wire brush and viola. starter started to spin - solenoid started to click and i was reading greater than 12-13 volts. hehe the 25-plus year old italian starter lives again lol. i am assuming that the car was only starting before b/c i was jumping the car -- which provided the additional voltage to jump those two washers

yes - next order of buisness - 66 yes c is that dump i was looking at. i think i will run a longer line to the street when i wrap up with all the other work.




i think over the weekend i will get to all the engine stuff...and then to the toe settings. everything begins to look brighter when you can actually get the car to start
 
You'll get there, BTW hows your weather......and whereabouts are you on the island? Just curious and jelous :eek:
ahh - i live in a suburban section just 10 minutes from the capital. antigua itself is 100 sq miles and has a vaaaaaaaaaast interior that, as students, we barely get to explore. the interior expands from gorgeous beaches to dense rainforests.

the gated community i live in was built by a retired italian 30 years go when he left his seat in some high govt position in italy [i think this is how it goes]. about a decade ago he had a stroke and was unable to continue expansion of the community. he lives in one of the houses here. his fiat was left dorment just opposing his house. i moved in only a few weeks ago and got that little pasta rocket started


--dont be jealous--med school is tedious. luckily i have another semester of premed before i face the full front of the basic sciences. then it will be off to some crappy hospital rotations back in new york [my home town]

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my polo rental--until i can get the panda to pass inspection
 
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One thing at a time. I don't have clear enough pics of the vent/pipe but it also seems to go to the airbox or carb? but would need better pics from someone who has a 903 engine to confirm.

These are some pics I found.
Pirst pic seems there is a pipe attached but shown in reverse.

this pictures are worth their digital weight in gold. i already see some errors on the panda over here. for instance - the fuel lines displayed here are placed above the engine mount - on my panda here, the fuel line is wedged inbetween the engine mount and the fender :eek::eek:. i knew something did not look right over there [exclimation point]
 
one more guy---anyone know what these creatures purpose is?

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the panda on the island has this wire twist and tied together...i need to find a soldering iron
 
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It's either the water temp sensor or the oil pressure sensor, if you remove it and it's covered in oil I'll let you guess which one :)

Showing these pics and you don't think I should feel jelous :eek:

BTW one of our Panda friends Jim, has taken his Fiat 500 over to New York just a couple of weeks ago and will be joining it shortly to do a cross America adventure. When you get back to New York Join the FLU (Fiat-Lancia Unlimited) website. They are the biggest italian car site in the US and have many meets all over the states.

I'll post the rest of the engine pics I have if they are of any help. They are from a 1986 Seat Panda....
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Re the timing, you can see the nut you need to loosten to turn the distributor just below the clip....
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one more guy---anyone know what these creatures purpose is?

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the panda on the island has this wire twist and tied together...i need to find a soldering iron

That switch in the pic is water temp sensor, oil pressure sensor is down on the side of the block cant rember which side but it down there lol
 
Been 6 years since i had a 903 engine but defo dont remember that pipe. Was just a straight breather from the filler neck to the airbox kept filling it with gunge aswell:yuck: couldn't see a head gasket fault think its just a 903 thing lol
 
just had a thought and hey presto, just been out and looked at my panda, i know ive got the 999cc ohc fire engine but guess what the breather got a small pipe coming off it just the same and it leads to a tapping into the manifold just below the carb. Vacuum from manifold to aid the removal of fumes from rocker cover?? thats where i would look though
 
mmm clean - that looks like a more modern system.

at idle, if i plug the hole, the engine seems to bog down a bit
 
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All these problems are so familiar lol. Regarding the starter, it could be a dead spot on the commutator (where the brushes contact the shaft within the motor). Mine used to click and then do nothing, but when it was out the car would spin up fine. I beleive this is due to the fact that when its out the car, the motor just spins on past the dead spot and carries on fine. When attached to the gearbox the flywheel increases the inertia and wont spin past the dead spot. Also, once stuck on that part of the commutator I had to get a screwdriver and turn the motor round a bit!! You can prolong the life by cleaning the commutator with a bit of fine wet and dry paper, but ultimately it is best to replace it.

As people have said already, the top sensor on the head indicated earlier is the temperature sensor.

The pipe exiting to air I would say was a previous owners bodge to try to fix the problems caused by all that muck coming out the breather from clogging up the carb. My jets were allways blocking up till I re-routed the breather into the catch tank!! I would personally do the catch tank trick, but I do beleive that the breather is meant to exit to low pressure air within the airbox. But mine has been fine exiting to atmospheric for 3 years now so I think its probably safe.

I wouldnt put a pipe down to the ground though. Unless you put a small air fliter on the end as any dirt kicked up may get into the engine as air pulses in and out from the breather.

All the best with the work anyways!

Si
 
the gated community i live in was built by a retired italian 30 years go when he left his seat in some high govt position in italy [i think this is how it goes]

Don't mention the "M" word.. ;)

about a decade ago he had a stroke and was unable to continue expansion of the community. he lives in one of the houses here. his fiat was left dorment just opposing his house. i moved in only a few weeks ago and got that little pasta rocket started

Let's hope he hasn't noticed you've requisitioned his car!

--dont be jealous

Yeah, right! It's been raining steadily here.. all day..

then it will be off to some crappy hospital rotations back in new york [my home town]

Was there a couple of weeks back (y) Can't see the Panda getting much respect in the New York traffic though...

Cheers,

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