Stilo Nero the Jtd Stilo

[rat20v]

yes it is, i know as i sent him the link
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-25-UNIVERSAL-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-ASTRA-CORSA-VECTRA-TURBO-TDI-Z20LET-/220932314428

Thanks buddy, added to my watched items, next week i shall order one

 

[rat20v]

Errm @rat20v ... sorry no i cant do a Guide .. as ive Just done it Quicly , Next time the bumper is off ill Take picures and pop a guide up

I meant when you pipe it up buddy, did you drill a big hole in the top of the crash bar (for acces) and then bolt it to the bottom of the crash bar?

i will have to cut my 5 door bumper but not too worried as it will be getting new paint soon

 

[blu73]

when i had my MW i always wanted to swap front bumper for a 3 door one, this would be the perfect excuse lol.

 

[jatkinson]

Yup mate I cut 3 little. Square in to the top of the crash member, then ran a drill in to the bottom so the bolts would. Drop though

 

[sharkytaylor]

I'm loving the look of that new intercooler, but my question is what benefit would it make to my jtd??

 

[blu73]

probably not a huge gain in performance but a little for sure... Bigger intercooler in general means you can run alot more boost before det is an issue - but i have zero experience tuning diesels

 

[jatkinson]

I'm loving the look of that new intercooler, but my question is what benefit would it make to my jtd??

the benefits are , it looks kool as penguin pee and as blu pointed out , Cooler boost so should be able to run more higher boost with out the boost getting to hot , my boost guage says im pushing 2bar of boost with the tuning box on

 

[sussexa]

you guys realise a better intercooler will work the turbo harder, as its cooler more dense air that's reaching the boost sensor the turbo is having to work that bit harder to achieve desired boost.
also I don't think 2 bar boost is too healthy for longevity on std turbo and if it is actual 2 bar boost whats your map sensor reading? are you on a std map sensor if so are you over range?
I suffered with boost creep when I had tuning box on and would see 1.8bar when should have been 1.38bar but that wasn't the only issue as the exhaust gas temperature is very high in this situation also.

 

[sharkytaylor]

the benefits are , it looks kool as penguin pee and as blu pointed out , Cooler boost so should be able to run more higher boost with out the boost getting to hot , my boost guage says im pushing 2bar of boost with the tuning box on

So for a Standard JTD with Standard Turbo and Standard Boost settings and no tuning box, it would be of no real benefit?

Regards

 

[sussexa]

it would be on a car and needs basis for me, what do you want to achieve by fitting one ? is it necessary?
a log of boost temperatures would soon show if one is required , in hot ambient temps and sustained high boost a smic can quickly heat soak and the boost air temperature , if you look in the" fitting bigger intercooler" thread I have a graph of smic vs fmic and I only reached 50c with smic some guys report boost temps of 70c plus, a smic dropped it right down for sure.
next you would want to log total fuel quantity IQ and maf mg/I to be sure that the hot boost air is dropping the maf air value low enough to require the ecu to cut fuel.
if it is then a fmic will help ,if it isn't then there would be nothing lost to gain but you will probably gain something from a cooler burn and lower egt and may be making a smidge more power still burning the same mg's of fuel.
if at anytime you want to upgrade in hp in the future a fmic would never be wasted time or money be it a tuning box or remap or whatever its just not going to make any reasonable extra power for its cost , just help you keep what you should have once the boost pressures and temperatures get too high for the turbo efficiency so it gets hotter quicker.

 

[gadge]

..........And it looks the nuts

 

[jatkinson]

Thanks fur the info,,
I'm running a drake tuning box, and when it's boosting 1,8. Bar + it's brings on the eml light, the code is boost pressure sensor (over boost)

I'm looking at getting a "uprated " one to stop the elm coming on as often and going in to limp mode in that gear

Your a man of a lot of knowledge sussexa.

 

[sussexa]

uprated what? box or turbo
you could always try turning the box down a bit, I used to regularly play with mine to get best increase for lowest setting but my eml were for fuel pressure regulator if cranked too high.

 

[jatkinson]

Uprated boost sensor thinggy on the battrey Tray ?

ill turn the box back down its just so much fun to drive when its Turned up high

 

[sussexa]

boost solenoid on battery box has little to do with it. the turbo is getting fed more combustion gas than it really wants and cant regulate itself lower. the boost solenoid is probably already asking minimum spool position 19.99% but the excess gas is overspeeding the turbine shaft and creating excess inlet boost as a side effect, also this boost air is probably quite hot due to being outside the compressor map.
I suppose the boost pressure will drop via the reduced air temp for the same shaft speed if say it does drop from 70c to 30c I wouldn't be supprised if it dropped 100-200mbar or more, which may be enough to stop your eml.
but its still overspeeding, not a death sentence but fully synthetic oil at shorter duration may be advised.
the sensor I was referring to is the map sensor, if yours is 8v 115 it has a 2.5bar map sensor so cant read anything over 1.5bar boost
a change to a 3 bar map sensor would require a remap to rescale linearization of map, probably a waste as if you went for a remap the boost wouldn't go so high as it does with the tuning box.
id try turning it down till you get boost below 1.5bar boost as that's probably a more reliable figure for a std turbo.
also where in the revs its doing high boost is important, as 1.8bar at 3000revs is not as bad as 1.8bar at 4000revs, although still bad
also to consider is the accuracy of your boost gauge ? it could be reading high or low .1-.2bar I suppose (they are not expensive super accurate gauges)

 

[jatkinson]

All now piped up, ran my boost gauge pipe a bit better and running it with out the little block thing in to stop the gauge flucuating and its now showing 1.6 bar boost , and turned the box down a little , now the Eml has stopped coming on so happy days

adding the cooler has gave a little bit of LAAAG but it Pullls a lot better when on boost , Well i think its got a lot smoother Pull and a longer on boost pull . , just need to clean up the way ive ran the pipes a little bit ,

 

[Reuuk]

Pics of your routingggg

 

[jatkinson]

errm no ... i need to neaten it up a little , I needed to quickly thow the bumper on and go out in the car as one of my friends Crashed her car and i towed it back , Im going to neaten the pipe work up on wednesday then pictures will be up Reuuk x

 

[Reuuk]

Is it zip tied on?

 

[rat20v]

errm no ... i need to neaten it up a little , I needed to quickly thow the bumper on and go out in the car as one of my friends Crashed her car and i towed it back , Im going to neaten the pipe work up on wednesday then pictures will be up @Reuuk x

cool beans man, can you give us a list of what pipes and silicon joiners you bought so I can purchase them all in one go please