MOT and Rear Fogs

[NumanR]

Regarding the fault we are talking about, as I understand it, its a single rear fog lamp.

Now from memory, the rear fog lamps should be either

in pairs an equal distance from the side of the vehicle and at a similar height.

a single lamp either an equal distance from either side, or fitted to the offside, of the vehicle.

From memory I cant remember anything about heights in the manual. I will recheck tomorrow at work.

 

[dave]

you will be issued a id card with your photo, you put that in a slot on the pc, you leave it there for the whole mot time 1 hour the ega is conected to same pc, if you take your card out before an hour they come around an say your not checking properly you not got the pc in yet? they dont look like home ones they look like old old pcs did. you will be one of the lucky ones, some poor guys can just about use a keyboard

 

[JimMagill]

If its a VOSA mot station then you are lucky, most garages dont have the space to do the production line system. Do you do it like the trucks where a tester clips a card to say he has checked that item and then passes it down the line to another tester?

I am not computerised yet so I cant comment.

All the MOT stations in Northern Ireland are run by the Dept of Environment. No garage can do an MOT here. There all specailly built buildings. The tester allows you do move the car on the first section (Co, lights etc) but he then takes over driving to the Brakes and the lift. Its the one tester that does the whole test.

All very different to GB....

Oh and as for buying a lamp for it.. Do you not realise I've 2 little fiats to look after.. Buying stuff for a Mazda indeed! (hehe)

Jim

 

[Chas Uno]

MOT tester here, and a motor vehicle must have obligatory lights.

I thought front lights were a statutory requirement only "if fitted". Therefore if the lights are removed then technically they are not fitted and can't be subjected to the MOT test? Must be a rather grey area though, as the MOT man can then say that there is "protruding" bodywork that could be dangerous where the headlights used to be, and fail it on that instead?

Some vehicles don't have lights (off road motorbikes for instance), but can still legally be driven/ ridden on the road in daylight hours. At least that used to be the case.

But all road legal vehicles from what I understand must have rear brake light(s), and if manufactured after 1980 or so must have a rear fog light fitted.

Possible exception could be some vintage cars that were never fitted with lights in the first place.

The regulations have been tightened up a lot over the past few years so maybe this is not the case now?

 

[Chas Uno]

MOT computerisation sucks its going to take an hour to test a car then, even if the car is only 4 years old and done 5k miles you still got to leave your card in for an hour or they will think you havent done it right but a 4 year old low mile car is not going to need so long to check as sday an old rover 213 also the dodgy places will just stick the ega up the exhaust of a diffrent car to pass

I would have thought that older cars would be quicker to test because there's less of the junk on them compared with newer cars. No ABS, no airbags, no catalytic converter, no traction control, no four wheel steering (except for old Honda Preludes!), no dodgy ECU warning lights etc. So less testing required!

Some of the classic car magazines were complaining about this, as even though a lot of sections in the new MOT don't apply to old cars they still have to pay the same price for it Maybe older cars could qualify for a reduction as the test in theory should be quicker

 

[arc]

i'd take ti somewhere else personally.. i mean its 40mm - who gives a..

or try fitting spring assistors to the rear springs to bring the height up, then take themo ff again

 

[dave]

try fitting spring assistors to the rear springs to bring the height up,

its the end of the world

 

[JimMagill]

I'm going to fix the handbrake and then take it back and have row with them over it...

(I'm back from the pub now....)

Jim

 

[sumplug]

my understanding with the mot is the electronics the govt are using are crap.it does not work properly.some cars when tested and hooked up will not start and the only way to start it is to wheel it out side.this is one reason why the new mot test has been delayed here.also if a car is tested and fails say on a leaking damper,the owner cannot go to another mot station for a test.it is logged on the computer.so the following year when the car is tested,the tester can look on the screen for past problems and check they have been rectified.i for one am glad.this will get rid of the crooked testers i hope.

 

[arc]

its the end of the world

i can't beleive i typed that... we are talkin about an mx5 though..

 

[arc]

sumplug, it also means you can't fix stuff yourself. If i had a faulty damper, i wouldnt want a garage to fix that - i'd do it myself and then go for the free retest.. which can't do now

 

[Chas Uno]

sumplug, it also means you can't fix stuff yourself. If i had a faulty damper, i wouldnt want a garage to fix that - i'd do it myself and then go for the free retest.. which can't do now

Why can't you do it yourself and then resubmit the car for the test Are the new MOT regulations really that bad?

 

[christopher watson]

Arc, the other problem is that the garage could say any price for the work, and you would have to get it done

 

[christopher watson]

Why can't you do it yourself and then resubmit the car for the test Are the new MOT regulations really that bad?

yes they are that bad, if the car fails its mot, you dont get a free retest.

 

[dave]

this will get rid of the crooked testers i hope.

nar the crooks are always one step ahead of the system

 

[Chas Uno]

yes they are that bad, if the car fails its mot, you dont get a free retest.

So what's stopping someone doing the repairs on their car and resubmitting it? These new regulations sound Draconian to me Plus I have my MOT coming up next Friday

 

[turbo_jim]

Get yourself a red bulb off ebay, and stick it in your offside reversing light, then wire it up to your foglight wire. So long as it lights up red it should be fine.

 

[arc]

So what's stopping someone doing the repairs on their car and resubmitting it? These new regulations sound Draconian to me Plus I have my MOT coming up next Friday

you can do that, but you can't then have a free retest

 

[thefishdude]

Get yourself a red bulb off ebay, and stick it in your offside reversing light, then wire it up to your foglight wire. So long as it lights up red it should be fine.

you know that is a cracking idea, would that work ??


i take my car to an mot testing station they dont do repairs mot only. now they offer a free retest. soo what happens now ? they cant do teh repairs so i have to go else were does that mean they still wont do free retest ?

 

[turbo_jim]

i take my car to an mot testing station they dont do repairs mot only. now they offer a free retest. soo what happens now ? they cant do teh repairs so i have to go else were does that mean they still wont do free retest ?

My uno had a computerised mot and the guy gave me 14 days to bring it back and get a free retest. I guess it's at the discretion of the garage whether they charge you or not.