Good luck. 
Wish I had the time and know how to delve into a project like that.
Wish I had the time and know how to delve into a project like that.
Is It A Fiat?
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I look forward to your next post in about three years time then!
Good luck with the project.
Looks like a 1600 to me too. But, having said that it bears a resemblance to a
Lancia Flavia and Flaminia which I think were also designed by Farina. I hope you manage to restore it. It will never be worth as much as some of the more exotic Italians or Porsches but it will add a presence to the roads of your fair state those others could never manage.
Lancia Flavia and Flaminia which I think were also designed by Farina. I hope you manage to restore it. It will never be worth as much as some of the more exotic Italians or Porsches but it will add a presence to the roads of your fair state those others could never manage.
My guess is it's a FIAT. All Farina's stuff from that time has big similarities, but if it's a Flaminia it should have a V6, if a Flavia, a flat 4 (and FWD).
The engine should be the giveaway: should have FIAT, Lancia, Alfa, Peugeot or even Ferrari stamped on it!
The engine should be the giveaway: should have FIAT, Lancia, Alfa, Peugeot or even Ferrari stamped on it!
Its definately either a 1500 or 1600S. The bump on the bonnet isnt standard, at least for a European one, could be an owners mod? The front bumper identifies it as a late one either 1965/66.
trish iler
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hello all, found a weber carburatori bologna, tipo 28/36DCLD3, no 2819.
q-jet on engine with a (m) stamped on it. is this the chassis number.
think also might be a fiat osco 1600s roadster,body buy pininfarina.
q-jet on engine with a (m) stamped on it. is this the chassis number.
think also might be a fiat osco 1600s roadster,body buy pininfarina.
Rare car! OSCA is the Maserati brothers after they sold the name. There are Vignale and Zagato bodied versions out there which are rarer, but even so, quite a find.
Well worth restoring -- engine parts might be an issue, but I'd be surprised if there isn't someone out there in a shed in Bologna with a few parts (and there may be some comunality with FIATs and Alfas of the period)!
OSCA did make a few desmodromic engines, but this is likely to be a "plain old" twin cam, something like 90bhp in stock tune, up to 140 full race.
Well worth restoring -- engine parts might be an issue, but I'd be surprised if there isn't someone out there in a shed in Bologna with a few parts (and there may be some comunality with FIATs and Alfas of the period)!
OSCA did make a few desmodromic engines, but this is likely to be a "plain old" twin cam, something like 90bhp in stock tune, up to 140 full race.
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I dont think the car you have is an Oscar... just a Fiat 1600S. Oscars have unique bodies and your car, like the one in the advert is a 1600. I think the advert above is a bit misleading and its not an Oscar.
trish iler
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? chassis number maybe
Hello all again,
Again thank you all for all your infomation on the car, it all helps give me direction. Now we found these numbers under the hood on frame and of course under a lot of dirt. They are,
1GM OM Fiat
118 SB 024689
Can not find a web site to explain the sequence. Along with the q-jet on the engine and the firing order. Another part of the puzzle.
Hello all again,
Again thank you all for all your infomation on the car, it all helps give me direction. Now we found these numbers under the hood on frame and of course under a lot of dirt. They are,
1GM OM Fiat
118 SB 024689
Can not find a web site to explain the sequence. Along with the q-jet on the engine and the firing order. Another part of the puzzle
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It's OSCA, not Oscar!
FIAT popped OSCA engines in their cars -- although there were OSCAs with custom built bodies, too. Wikipedia (for example) for more info.
trish iler
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Hello All Again,
NOw another piece of the puzzle. Found what appeares to be a foot holder on the passenger side of the fiat. Looks as if factory installed, not after market. Also got the engine out and did find these numbers,
Fiat 118.000 and *005946* . Still can't find the car to start the right
restoration. thank you all again for any and all help...........
NOw another piece of the puzzle. Found what appeares to be a foot holder on the passenger side of the fiat. Looks as if factory installed, not after market. Also got the engine out and did find these numbers,
Fiat 118.000 and *005946* . Still can't find the car to start the right
restoration. thank you all again for any and all help...........
What's a footholder? I'm guessing some kind of parking brake?
There has to be a classic FIAT or OSCA association somewhere in the States, but, in the meantime, a letter to FIAT may just unlock the mystery.
There has to be a classic FIAT or OSCA association somewhere in the States, but, in the meantime, a letter to FIAT may just unlock the mystery.
FiatFleetFamily
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Looks like a later concept of the Fiat 2300 Coupe. 1962 - 1968
I am new to this forum ... but not to the study of older italian cars. This may be old news but ...
Trish's car is a Fiat 1600S from probably 1963 or 1964. The body is a production body by Pininfarina, the same company that designed the body of the Peugeot that was mentioned several times. The engine is probably the original. The engine design was from the Maserati brothers working under the name of OSCA, since they'd sold the Maserati name in 1938. Fiat engaged OSCA to do a 1500cc production version of OSCA mostly hand-built twin-cam racing engine. The 1600cc engine is an evolution of that 1500cc design.
The Pininfarina hardtop was an optional accessory that is attractive, well-made and is quite sought-after today. The Pininfarina work number "21666" on the ID plate is a typical tracking number and similar numbers were assigned to Pininfarina bodies as well. There may be a number to be found on some body parts but it probably will not match the number on the hardtop.
Cool car!
John de Boer - The Italian Car Registry
Trish's car is a Fiat 1600S from probably 1963 or 1964. The body is a production body by Pininfarina, the same company that designed the body of the Peugeot that was mentioned several times. The engine is probably the original. The engine design was from the Maserati brothers working under the name of OSCA, since they'd sold the Maserati name in 1938. Fiat engaged OSCA to do a 1500cc production version of OSCA mostly hand-built twin-cam racing engine. The 1600cc engine is an evolution of that 1500cc design.
The Pininfarina hardtop was an optional accessory that is attractive, well-made and is quite sought-after today. The Pininfarina work number "21666" on the ID plate is a typical tracking number and similar numbers were assigned to Pininfarina bodies as well. There may be a number to be found on some body parts but it probably will not match the number on the hardtop.
Cool car!
John de Boer - The Italian Car Registry
Pretty rare car -- I'm sure I'm not alone in hoping it gets the full restoration treatment (with lots of photos here -- or a link to them elsewhere).
Well it's been 4 years since the thread was posted so I suspect we won't hear from the OP any time soon.
I still feel like 1990 was 10 years ago ...
