General Identifying the right Panda Cross - noob question

[Bobduro]

Morning all,

I've been lurking for a while as I've been trying to convince my other half that the Panda cross is the right choice for our second car. She's finally coming around so am looking with a view to buying.

I know that there aren't many Cross (mk4?) for sale - I'm looking for a 2019-20 model but have noticed a few being advertised as City Cross that my very amateur eyes are convinced might actually a Cross.

So my questions to the resident experts on here are just to clear this up in my head:

1: If a car is being advertised as a City Cross but it has the dial to switch to permanent 4x4 & hill descent, is this definitely an error on the part of the seller?
2: What colours
does the Cross come in? I know of yellow, black, white, red & dark green. But minimal grey? I thought that this was only the City Cross?

If somebody could confirm I'd be incredibly grateful, I need to buy one before the other half changes her mind again!

thanks in advance

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Yes, there was a spate of these errors a while back which meant that there were some underpriced cars around. If there's a dial, it's 4x4.

 

[Panda IIs]

Yes, there was a spate of these errors a while back which meant that there were some underpriced cars around. If there's a dial, it's 4x4.

And a rear diff, prop and drive shafts...

 

[Bonefish Blues]

And a rear diff, prop and drive shafts...

Are you saying that cars were fitted with dials that aren't 4x4?

 

[Panda IIs]

Are you saying that cars were fitted with dials that aren't 4x4?

No, that was somewhat tongue in cheek! Clearly if you are looking at listed cars online then looking at the controls in the images is way more discreet than asking the seller "are you sure?" its not 4x4! I think we are on the same page?

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Just looking for clarity at the earliest opportunity, lest your post had inadvertently caused confusion for @Bobduro

 

[Panda IIs]

Just looking for clarity at the earliest opportunity, lest your post had inadvertently caused confusion for @Bobduro

You are absolutely correct! My sense of humour is a little offbeat for some and at best leaves them confused and at worst just plain offended! I think @Bobduro is up to speed.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Not only that, but the last thing we might want to do is cause any alarm to a Dealer who has priced a 2WD car honestly, of course

 

[JayAre]

And a rear diff, prop and drive shafts...

worth checking underneath, though, that these are in place - I believe sometimes the prop shaft may be removed (broken / worn etc) so if it’s not being sold as “4x4” I would want to check underneath…

 

[Bonefish Blues]

worth checking underneath, though, that these are in place - I believe sometimes the prop shaft may be removed (broken / worn etc) so if it’s not being sold as “4x4” I would want to check underneath…

Covert Prop Ops you say?

Just don't let the salesman see it!

 

[Bobduro]

thanks everyone for the replies - Don't worry - all very clear! Found 2 on Cinch both of which are listed as City Cross and your information confirms their error! I'm certainly not going to let them know!

I suppose I should follow this up with another question given the expert available. My wife has stated that IF she's to get on board with a Panda Cross it must come with rear parking sensors. I notice that often the sensors at the rear are located in difference places. I'm not entirely sure which are the factory fitted ones and which are after market - or whether it actually makes any difference whatsoever,

Silly question I know, but if I get the go ahead and then she doesn't like it it's likely to be held over me until the end of time!!!

 

[The Panda Nut]

thanks everyone for the replies - Don't worry - all very clear! Found 2 on Cinch both of which are listed as City Cross and your information confirms their error! I'm certainly not going to let them know!

I suppose I should follow this up with another question given the expert available. My wife has stated that IF she's to get on board with a Panda Cross it must come with rear parking sensors. I notice that often the sensors at the rear are located in difference places. I'm not entirely sure which are the factory fitted ones and which are after market - or whether it actually makes any difference whatsoever,

Silly question I know, but if I get the go ahead and then she doesn't like it it's likely to be held over me until the end of time!!!

Normal. I used to buy a new car and have to wait for the temperatuure to come back up.... bery slowly from -273K, then repeat.

 

[The Panda Nut]

thanks everyone for the replies - Don't worry - all very clear! Found 2 on Cinch both of which are listed as City Cross and your information confirms their error! I'm certainly not going to let them know!

I suppose I should follow this up with another question given the expert available. My wife has stated that IF she's to get on board with a Panda Cross it must come with rear parking sensors. I notice that often the sensors at the rear are located in difference places. I'm not entirely sure which are the factory fitted ones and which are after market - or whether it actually makes any difference whatsoever,

Silly question I know, but if I get the go ahead and then she doesn't like it it's likely to be held over me until the end of time!!!

Factory fit have 3 sensors. Ricambi accessori have four Who knows why.. The fitting points are maked on the inside of the bumper. If for a second car for your Mrs I would go for a CIty Cross, You have the looks and without the complications, expensive servicing and higher insurance. Our 1.2 costs to insure £250 the 4x4 is nealry £400. The TA is much faster, but a well sorted 1.2 is a very nice thing to drive. My Mrs does not like the two cylinder engine and wont drive it unless she has to. It takes a while to get used to the TA engine and without some mechanical undertsanding, a long while I think. I agree re parking sensors as its hard to get close to things with confidence without them.

 

[JayAre]

Insurance shouldn’t necessarily be hugely different for the Panda 4x4 - mine (just renewed) was £189 fully comp + protected NCD +legal protection etc. But why don’t you call your insurer and ask?
Likewise the rear parking sensors - I don’t have them but it’s a small car and easy to place, and if you like the car and it’s a good price then get a retrofit - simples!

 

[Bobduro]

thanks again everyone! Wasn't expecting replies on a Saturday evening! We're definitely after the TA. It'll be used for short journeys and an occasional journey into London. Where we live suits a Cross better otherwise the CityCross would have been an option. We're planning on moving further into the sticks soon too so a useful agile 4x4 will be ideal. This has all been very helpful!

 

[Panda IIs]

Insurance shouldn’t necessarily be hugely different for the Panda 4x4 - mine (just renewed) was £189 fully comp + protected NCD +legal protection etc. But why don’t you call your insurer and ask?
Likewise the rear parking sensors - I don’t have them but it’s a small car and easy to place, and if you like the car and it’s a good price then get a retrofit - simples!

Parking sensors? Get a towbar kit, better value for money since it serves two purposes then